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we live in a reality of phantoms and

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monsters they exist Among Us and

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sometimes they win even the devil was an

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angel once the world has its own rules

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and these rules are not human

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some of us seek answers to the origin

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and existence of Cryptids and The

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hey folks good evening and welcome to

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so tonight I present dog man experiencer

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Matt hurryack and the fans of monster 4K

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research team member researcher and

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writer Timothy Renner now Matt's

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sighting happened on April 30th 2022 in

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Birdsboro Pennsylvania in the Birdsboro

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preserve now this area is just North of

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the French Creek State Park and the

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forest intercepted with one another

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there's roughly 15 to 20 square miles of

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dense natural Woodland in this area it's

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one of the largest Forest areas of

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Southeastern Pennsylvania

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Now Matt and his 12 year old daughter

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were fishing at Hay Creek

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when they observed a gruesome Cryptid

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canine in the trees across the Quarry

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from them

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Matt will describe in detail the

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incident which was a harrowing and

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life-changing event

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uh fans of monsters 14 Research team is

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actively investigating this incident

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so Matt and Tim thanks for coming on

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thanks for having me

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always good to be with you line okay

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thanks thanks Tim it's great to have you

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on again

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so Matt how you doing good good yeah so

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uh well I guess I guess what we're going

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to do is just have you tell tell

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everybody from the beginning what

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happened okay uh I will be honest with

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you this is one of the craziest

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crypto keen on encounters savings that

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I've heard

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um and especially by the descriptions

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and then Vince is going to put up some

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of the uh

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some of the graphics and stuff in your

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schedule later on so

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uh so go ahead and tell us what happened

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okay so uh April 3rd

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30th my daughter wanted to go fishing

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and uh it was a beautiful spring spring

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day

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um and it had rained like two weeks in a

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row well the crooks were kind of high so

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I wanted to take her out she wanted to

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learn how to wait in semi-fast water so

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I was like all right well we'll go to

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Hay Creek because it's a it's a pretty

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safe Creek the water's not really

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um you know to

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violent and it's not too deep so um I

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was like okay you know let's let's grab

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the rise and we'll go up so we get up

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there that was around

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maybe 11 30 somewhere near and it's

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about it's about a 35 minute walk it's

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about a mile and a half up in there

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and um it's this is called Hay Creek

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Road which what was the old

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um route 82. so uh back in uh 80s 1986

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it was shut down when uh Andrew had come

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up through and uh knocked the bridge out

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so they just made it into a reserve so

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the old road was still there but it's

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never been uh you know repaired or

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whatever so

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we were up there's two quarries uh in

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um there's a big

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active Quarry and then there's an

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inactive card so we had crossed the hay

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Creek and we went up on the other side

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uh we're maybe quarter mile past the um

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um Quarry and we settled in and we

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started fishing and uh just to give you

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a general picture everybody in their

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grandmother was Outdoors that day

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because you know it was a long winter it

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was damp and there's hikers there's

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mountain bikers there's people on horse

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horses that have a horse trail up there

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you know so a lot of people walking in

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and you know walking in and about around

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so we were fishing for maybe about an

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hour hour and a half

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and um all of a sudden I heard what

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sounded like a tree falling over now the

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Quarry was working till around two

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so this is probably about 12 30 ish now

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one o'clock and we were up there and uh

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it's it sounds like a treat you know

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they're falling over

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and uh but it keeps going it's like it's

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like something you know it's just

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repeating this sound goes on for about

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almost two minutes and I stand up you

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know I'm looking around I'm like man you

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know this is really odd and it's fairly

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close it's within you know a hundred

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hundred of self feed from us

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so um my daughter was in the Stream So

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she was fishing she couldn't really hear

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it because of the fast order

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so but it was loud I mean it sounded

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like a big dog of fur coming down you

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know over but it was unusual because

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there was no

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as far as this crashing sound

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so I was a bit like you know startled

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and I'm like okay whatever so I couldn't

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see nothing

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so I was like okay whatever and and you

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know we continue fishing

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so it was about an hour I don't know an

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hour and a half

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I hear it again

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now this time it's a little bit closer

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but it's a little bit longer than like

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it was about two and a half minutes

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and now you know I'm standing up I mean

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being in the woods being an avid

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Outdoorsman all my life uh you know

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hunting fishing been in national parks

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they're all around State Forest national

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forests and and never never heard

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anything like this so I I was a bit you

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know concerned and puzzled as far as you

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know what this was

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so uh I was like all right again I

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couldn't see nothing I just hear you

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know like like a tornado in a tree I

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mean that's what it's sounded like it it

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did it sounded like a like a freight

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train coming through you know the horse

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but I don't see anything

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so I'm like okay whatever you know I'm

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like okay try to make sense of that

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so I said to my daughter I says well

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let's go down and we'll try some comma

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water and we'll uh we'll see the stream

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kind of widens out and you know it's

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nice clear so we start walking down and

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um we get into this spot it's maybe 45

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minutes later you know we've been there

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at least a half hour 40 minutes later

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and I hear it again now this time it's

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even closer so now I'm I'm like what the

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crap is going on

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so you know I can't see anything when I

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hear this it sounds like a 747 crashing

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through the forest I'm like what you

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know something's totally out of whack

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here

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so at this point I'm I'm very alarmed

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because I'm like okay you know I've

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never experienced anything like this

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um ever

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um and it's it it's

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it's just you know repeating every so

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many

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hours or whatever and yet I can't see

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nothing

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so I said to my daughter I says okay I

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said let's go down and we'll cross the

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street and we'll go down on the main

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part of the old road and we'll um

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we'll fish down there and it's closer

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down towards the the park where there's

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more people whatever and I wasn't even

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scared I mean you know I thought okay

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maybe

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you know it was early spring I thought

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okay maybe a bear was down in there or

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you know something like that or

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um but that particular last time uh we

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were right near the Horse Trail now the

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horse trail is about 30 feet above us on

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the stream level

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but there were horses that were coming

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up and when the sound

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hit or started it kind of rattled the

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one horse that the horse kind of like

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you know

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historical and uh so I I noticed that

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and uh but like I said you know it stood

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up again and this is to my back from the

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Stream So This is now the third time

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that that I've heard this and I can't

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see anything

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so we start coming down

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um to the lower end of the big Quarry

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would be the southern end of it and

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we're traveling north and the stream is

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probably about 40 foot wide

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roughly there and it's

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it's really high you know it's up to my

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knees so someone has stuck to my

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daughter's waist and I was just 12. so

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as we start across the stream all hell

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breaks loose like right above us now

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we're about 20 feet down in the correct

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level to get up to the bridge it's about

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10 feet and then you go up this little

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embankment up to the thing

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are up to the grow level

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and keep in mind there's no leaves on

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the trees they're just starting to buy

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and uh so you know I can see pretty far

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you know through the canopy like this

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whole time and yet I see nothing

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so it takes us about 45 seconds

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um you know maybe a minute to get across

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the Stream

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I'm going first I have I'm holding her

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by her hand and

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um

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all of a sudden you know it's really

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close now and as I come up the

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embankment it's like a little burn so

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it's probably about a six foot thing and

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it's kind of

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you have to like go up and then you have

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to go to earn 90 degrees and then get up

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on the road level so I get up first and

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I had rod and stuff uh

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I just look back because now now it

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seems really close to me so I kind of

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flinched and looked back and as I'm

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looking back as I have my daughter's arm

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to help her up

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I see moving out of my peripheral living

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so I turned back and I look and I'm on

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startled but I can't see none you know I

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saw the salad out of my peripheral

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vision so I'm looking

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and I'm looking on the side of the

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quarrel this is about 150 maybe 200 feet

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Max

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so all of a sudden I'm focusing in on

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you know the direction the sound and I

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see this pine tree it's going back and

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forth like this this is a 40-foot pine

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tree it's all the way up at the very tip

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of the pine tree and I said to my

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daughter I said what the heck is that

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you know up in the tree I said look so

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this thing swam back and forth probably

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at least three to five feet you know and

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branches are breaking stuff's flying out

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I'm like what is going on so first I

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thought okay maybe maybe an eagle you

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know God got a bird or something or you

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know it was some Predator was up in

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there whatever all of a sudden

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I see this black thing fly out of the

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tree

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and I seen R come up and it knocked it

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down it didn't grab it but it knocked it

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down

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and

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creature jumps from One Tree to another

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now I I think it was an oak tree it was

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you know I had a big canopy on them

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and I was just in total disbelief

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because when the string jumped this is

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probably a good six to eight feet maybe

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even more from that tree onto the other

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tree

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so it kind of goes like down in the

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camera people then it starts climbing on

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the outside of the canopy almost like

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it's sort of like a defined physics you

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know and and imagine you know you're

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seeing this and you're like okay bare

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Mountain line you know it doesn't

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compute doesn't confuse your brains you

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know trying to figure this out this is

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all within you know 10 15 seconds of

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what you're trying to see

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so this thing gets up on top of the

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canopy it struggles to get up top but

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it's on the top and it's like pivoting

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almost like a spider like on a web and

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all of a sudden Scene goes down in to

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the canopy

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so I'm like what the heck I'm you know

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what are we what are we watching here

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you know what are we seeing

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um it just didn't compute

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so

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it's in the tree now keep in mind you

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can see in inside the canopy because the

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leaves aren't completely wrong and

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branches are breaking and I'm not just

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talking like little branches I'm talking

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I need one inch round

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um you know Branch big big limbs are

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just being thrown you know like like

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twins out of the string it's like a

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tornado in the tree and I'm like whoa

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you know what is going on all of a

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sudden

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this thing jumps now keep in mind I'm

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gonna put this in perspective for you

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the trees are 40 foot high at least

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um and I didn't get back up there to get

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pictures of it

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um yeah but I will and we can do another

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thing on that later but

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um

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on the Quarry side of the wall this is

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well on the edge of the Quarry so trees

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are 44 High to the ground you know on

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the side of the party this is right on

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the top of the of the bridge then

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there's like a 15 to 20 foot incline of

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rock that's almost a 60 degree angle

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because when this thing jumps out

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it jumps

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probably six to eight feet out of the

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tree like in length you know sideways

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and falls

364
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60 feet boom onto this rock face now

365
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this rock face is 60 degrees when it

366
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hits I'll never forget the impact

367
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because the Rocks started you know I

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mean it hit hard

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but when it landed it landed like almost

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like on all fours uh almost like a frog

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you know in the land it landed on all

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fours like together and I'm thinking

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holy crap this thing's dead I mean this

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thing to spell the equivalent of about

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60 feet at least

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and it's laying there now when it fell

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it landed

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with its back towards us on like I'd say

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almost like a 45 degree not quite a 45

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but I'd say about 2 30 and 40 degrees I

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can see it's back

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I can see its hind legs

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I can see its head now it's fall from

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the shores up okay this thing's laying

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there yeah that's my uh rendition of

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what I saw so this thing stands up after

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about I don't know maybe

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takes the 12 seconds and it it stands up

389
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and it rears itself you know like it's

390
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shaking itself off like you know that

391
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wasn't fun or whatever like it was

392
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stretching so I'm like holy crap this

393
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thing now is on two legs and it's

394
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massive

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from

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the heel to the hip it's at least seven

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foot okay we told me I'm six one

398
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from the hip to the shoulder is another

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three to four feet

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shoulder to heal tension easy you know

401
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not even trying and it's just sit or

402
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standing there

403
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uh in a bipedal position

404
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and

405
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all of a sudden it goes down on all

406
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fours

407
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and it jumps like a frog this thing

408
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jumps at least 20 foot not even trying

409
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by at least six to eight foot high

410
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and lands on its front on its front arms

411
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now when it stands up

412
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um now well before it stood up

413
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it uh now remember this is on a 60

414
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degree incline that it's on this rock

415
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face and it's running almost parallel to

416
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me and my daughter to the left we saw

417
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her on the right hand side and as it

418
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fell

419
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it will you know I'm seeing the back of

420
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it the whole time no tail it looks like

421
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a gorilla or you know almost like a

422
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Sasquatch or Sabe whatever you call

423
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Bigfoot but it's got human-like hands

424
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I'll never forget the hands on it

425
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because

426
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when it landed on all fours now this

427
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thing had a bird under its arm and it

428
00:19:16,549 --> 00:19:13,860
also had a bird that it was holding so

429
00:19:19,370 --> 00:19:16,559
when it landed on all fours the one bird

430
00:19:21,230 --> 00:19:19,380
in its left hand fell out and was

431
00:19:25,130 --> 00:19:21,240
rolling down

432
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the 60 degree incline rock face

433
00:19:30,890 --> 00:19:27,840
so I'm like

434
00:19:33,169 --> 00:19:30,900
holy crap you know I'm totally frozen I

435
00:19:37,669 --> 00:19:33,179
don't know what this thing is

436
00:19:40,370 --> 00:19:37,679
so it reaches out with its left hand and

437
00:19:43,130 --> 00:19:40,380
it turns its head to the side

438
00:19:44,510 --> 00:19:43,140
so now I have a full side view of the

439
00:19:48,650 --> 00:19:44,520
head

440
00:19:49,669 --> 00:19:48,660
and I'm like whoa it's got a human-like

441
00:19:54,950 --> 00:19:49,679
head

442
00:19:58,490 --> 00:19:54,960
but it has like a canine upper jaw the

443
00:20:01,370 --> 00:19:58,500
lower jaw was like a human's but

444
00:20:04,430 --> 00:20:01,380
um the upper jaw looked like more like a

445
00:20:07,970 --> 00:20:04,440
hyena not a full grown snout like a bear

446
00:20:12,350 --> 00:20:07,980
has or a um

447
00:20:15,230 --> 00:20:12,360
um a dog but almost like in between like

448
00:20:17,750 --> 00:20:15,240
a you know a hyena has a shorter

449
00:20:20,690 --> 00:20:17,760
pure jaw

450
00:20:21,470 --> 00:20:20,700
so it's got canine friends they're at

451
00:20:25,490 --> 00:20:21,480
least

452
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I'd say three to five inches in length I

453
00:20:28,690 --> 00:20:27,000
mean this thing looked like a werewolf

454
00:20:31,190 --> 00:20:28,700
right out of Harry Potter

455
00:20:35,210 --> 00:20:31,200
excuse me so

456
00:20:38,090 --> 00:20:35,220
um so I'm just in total disbelief that

457
00:20:40,070 --> 00:20:38,100
stands up again by purely after it grabs

458
00:20:41,450 --> 00:20:40,080
you know the uh

459
00:20:45,169 --> 00:20:41,460
this bird

460
00:20:48,470 --> 00:20:45,179
and it stands there and it looks around

461
00:20:51,490 --> 00:20:48,480
never turning around towards me we never

462
00:20:54,470 --> 00:20:51,500
saw us and this thing starts running

463
00:20:56,630 --> 00:20:54,480
like it's like an Olympic tracker arm

464
00:21:00,470 --> 00:20:56,640
running over hurdles

465
00:21:02,270 --> 00:21:00,480
and each stride is at least 15 feet

466
00:21:05,750 --> 00:21:02,280
not even trying

467
00:21:09,230 --> 00:21:05,760
and it covered probably 200 yards in a

468
00:21:12,350 --> 00:21:09,240
matter of seconds and then disappeared

469
00:21:15,110 --> 00:21:12,360
into the brush so it's it's it's running

470
00:21:18,130 --> 00:21:15,120
on almost 90 degrees not quite I'd say

471
00:21:21,529 --> 00:21:18,140
more like a 75 degree angle away songs

472
00:21:22,730 --> 00:21:21,539
and then crashes in through the uh the

473
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woods

474
00:21:28,850 --> 00:21:25,620
and I'm like holy crap what did I just

475
00:21:31,310 --> 00:21:28,860
witness you you know I I'm in total

476
00:21:35,210 --> 00:21:31,320
I mean total disbelief I mean the total

477
00:21:37,789 --> 00:21:35,220
stays shocked and I'm like okay

478
00:21:38,750 --> 00:21:37,799
um does not compute and for the first

479
00:21:41,990 --> 00:21:38,760
time

480
00:21:44,029 --> 00:21:42,000
in my entire life I had I don't know if

481
00:21:45,590 --> 00:21:44,039
it was a panic attack or an anxiety

482
00:21:48,710 --> 00:21:45,600
attack whatever

483
00:21:51,470 --> 00:21:48,720
I I started like shaking I'm like well

484
00:21:54,169 --> 00:21:51,480
dude you know what what was this you

485
00:21:56,690 --> 00:21:54,179
know what what's going on here this just

486
00:22:00,110 --> 00:21:56,700
defied everything I know about

487
00:22:02,810 --> 00:22:00,120
Wilderness you know nature I'm like this

488
00:22:05,630 --> 00:22:02,820
thing should not exist and I just saw

489
00:22:09,049 --> 00:22:05,640
this thing and my daughter's like that

490
00:22:12,350 --> 00:22:09,059
you know what what was that and I said I

491
00:22:15,470 --> 00:22:12,360
have no idea not a loss of words

492
00:22:17,510 --> 00:22:15,480
and she goes that was no bear she's she

493
00:22:19,490 --> 00:22:17,520
said I don't know what that was

494
00:22:21,529 --> 00:22:19,500
so

495
00:22:23,270 --> 00:22:21,539
I'm standing there for like two minutes

496
00:22:26,090 --> 00:22:23,280
just trying to get my conversion

497
00:22:27,590 --> 00:22:26,100
together you know to figure out what the

498
00:22:30,470 --> 00:22:27,600
happiest thing is

499
00:22:35,090 --> 00:22:30,480
and I've come to the realization now

500
00:22:37,310 --> 00:22:35,100
that I gotta go the exact same way this

501
00:22:39,649 --> 00:22:37,320
thing ran because I got to get back to

502
00:22:41,390 --> 00:22:39,659
my truck which is probably three

503
00:22:44,810 --> 00:22:41,400
quarters of a mile

504
00:22:46,070 --> 00:22:44,820
down down now you know well it could

505
00:22:49,610 --> 00:22:46,080
grow there

506
00:22:51,770 --> 00:22:49,620
so the whole time I'm thinking all right

507
00:22:54,409 --> 00:22:51,780
this thing is violent I mean this thing

508
00:22:56,630 --> 00:22:54,419
was not funny this thing ripped them

509
00:22:59,090 --> 00:22:56,640
trees apart and I'm I'm not talking

510
00:23:01,850 --> 00:22:59,100
small little trees I mean these things

511
00:23:05,450 --> 00:23:01,860
breaking the lens at least a few inches

512
00:23:09,230 --> 00:23:05,460
in diameter snapping them off and you

513
00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:09,240
know throwing you know just thrown the

514
00:23:14,690 --> 00:23:12,000
hands I I'll give you Dimensions as far

515
00:23:19,850 --> 00:23:14,700
as the arms the arms were just as long

516
00:23:21,300 --> 00:23:19,860
as the legs if not long the hands um I

517
00:23:23,029 --> 00:23:21,310
would say almost

518
00:23:25,549 --> 00:23:23,039
[Music]

519
00:23:29,289 --> 00:23:25,559
I'm thinking probably

520
00:23:32,450 --> 00:23:29,299
at least two foot you know

521
00:23:35,090 --> 00:23:32,460
uh from Palm to

522
00:23:39,529 --> 00:23:35,100
the fingertips and I had three inch

523
00:23:41,390 --> 00:23:39,539
claws you know at least the feet

524
00:23:43,970 --> 00:23:41,400
um like I said when this thing first

525
00:23:46,430 --> 00:23:43,980
fell out of the tree

526
00:23:49,190 --> 00:23:46,440
um that's a pretty good uh rendition of

527
00:23:49,990 --> 00:23:49,200
the hands on it uh it was about that

528
00:23:52,850 --> 00:23:50,000
long

529
00:23:55,250 --> 00:23:52,860
uh the thing that struck me though was

530
00:23:57,770 --> 00:23:55,260
how skinny this thing was

531
00:23:59,930 --> 00:23:57,780
um and when I came home I wrote all

532
00:24:03,169 --> 00:23:59,940
kinds of detailed notes down so I would

533
00:24:07,310 --> 00:24:03,179
so I wouldn't forget it and it was

534
00:24:09,950 --> 00:24:07,320
almost like it was anorexic or oriented

535
00:24:14,810 --> 00:24:09,960
being in hibernation

536
00:24:17,149 --> 00:24:14,820
um the head was completely bald from

537
00:24:20,149 --> 00:24:17,159
from the shoulders up

538
00:24:21,409 --> 00:24:20,159
uh the skin was like a light gray I

539
00:24:25,669 --> 00:24:21,419
don't know if you've ever seen Lord of

540
00:24:28,990 --> 00:24:25,679
the Rings uh the Orcs the exact same

541
00:24:32,630 --> 00:24:29,000
color skin I'll never forget that skin

542
00:24:35,090 --> 00:24:32,640
and the weird thing was was it had

543
00:24:38,750 --> 00:24:35,100
the placement of the years was not like

544
00:24:40,490 --> 00:24:38,760
a canine or like a regular dog man uh to

545
00:24:43,310 --> 00:24:40,500
where they would you know it was on top

546
00:24:46,010 --> 00:24:43,320
of the head this was exactly where a

547
00:24:48,070 --> 00:24:46,020
seniors here would be but they were

548
00:24:49,850 --> 00:24:48,080
pointed almost like an elephant

549
00:24:52,490 --> 00:24:49,860
narrowing through

550
00:24:55,970 --> 00:24:52,500
and uh yeah I mean it's just totally

551
00:24:58,909 --> 00:24:55,980
insane I mean let me ask let me ask let

552
00:25:01,430 --> 00:24:58,919
me ask uh Tim Tim have we ever have you

553
00:25:03,669 --> 00:25:01,440
ever heard anything like this before

554
00:25:06,590 --> 00:25:03,679
I I mean

555
00:25:08,930 --> 00:25:06,600
not exactly like this for sure like this

556
00:25:11,470 --> 00:25:08,940
is this is combining a lot of really

557
00:25:14,570 --> 00:25:11,480
interesting things like so it's

558
00:25:15,409 --> 00:25:14,580
massively picture right there massively

559
00:25:17,149 --> 00:25:15,419
tall

560
00:25:20,810 --> 00:25:17,159
yeah

561
00:25:22,850 --> 00:25:20,820
you know like this so you know I guess

562
00:25:26,570 --> 00:25:22,860
with the head you're talking

563
00:25:31,070 --> 00:25:26,580
what 12 feet something yeah oh yeah 10

564
00:25:35,510 --> 00:25:31,080
10 12 feet that that is almost that is

565
00:25:39,110 --> 00:25:35,520
very close wow uh yes that that right

566
00:25:41,450 --> 00:25:39,120
there is almost perfect same skin color

567
00:25:44,750 --> 00:25:41,460
the only thing that was different was

568
00:25:46,789 --> 00:25:44,760
the lower jaw was

569
00:25:49,789 --> 00:25:46,799
um a little shorter almost like a

570
00:25:53,149 --> 00:25:49,799
human's it didn't have lower fats but it

571
00:25:55,610 --> 00:25:53,159
had canine fangs on the top

572
00:25:58,730 --> 00:25:55,620
um you know like that but the the nose

573
00:26:01,970 --> 00:25:58,740
wasn't it was lower it was a little bit

574
00:26:04,549 --> 00:26:01,980
lower almost to like I would say just

575
00:26:07,789 --> 00:26:04,559
above above it's like clock out there

576
00:26:13,789 --> 00:26:07,799
but very I mean that's that's 90 right

577
00:26:15,769 --> 00:26:13,799
there wow these yeah so here no hair on

578
00:26:19,310 --> 00:26:15,779
the thread but hair on his body

579
00:26:21,890 --> 00:26:19,320
uh yes it had it had hair

580
00:26:26,029 --> 00:26:21,900
um it was like uh I wouldn't say it was

581
00:26:28,789 --> 00:26:26,039
fur it almost reminded me of

582
00:26:30,909 --> 00:26:28,799
um a winter coat on a horse you know how

583
00:26:34,430 --> 00:26:30,919
they get like that shaggier

584
00:26:37,549 --> 00:26:34,440
uh almost like a wool type thing it was

585
00:26:39,769 --> 00:26:37,559
like that now it had this thing was

586
00:26:42,169 --> 00:26:39,779
older uh it was an older Animal I could

587
00:26:44,690 --> 00:26:42,179
tell because it had gray on the

588
00:26:47,930 --> 00:26:44,700
shoulders and just on the back of its

589
00:26:52,510 --> 00:26:47,940
neck but you know so I'm probably here

590
00:26:56,990 --> 00:26:54,950
or your uh

591
00:26:59,149 --> 00:26:57,000
whatever this is called here muscle wise

592
00:27:02,570 --> 00:26:59,159
it was bald

593
00:27:04,070 --> 00:27:02,580
um but it had black it had black fur and

594
00:27:06,230 --> 00:27:04,080
then it had

595
00:27:09,470 --> 00:27:06,240
um it had like brown spots and silver

596
00:27:11,510 --> 00:27:09,480
spots like the elbows were like a

597
00:27:12,409 --> 00:27:11,520
silverish color

598
00:27:15,590 --> 00:27:12,419
um

599
00:27:18,409 --> 00:27:15,600
and uh it didn't have markings

600
00:27:20,750 --> 00:27:18,419
um I messed up when I drew my drawing I

601
00:27:23,450 --> 00:27:20,760
was using a marker for muscle uh

602
00:27:26,630 --> 00:27:23,460
definition so the the black marks were

603
00:27:29,149 --> 00:27:26,640
muscle tone the arms were really skinny

604
00:27:31,250 --> 00:27:29,159
the forearms were kind of developed

605
00:27:34,730 --> 00:27:31,260
though uh you know

606
00:27:37,610 --> 00:27:34,740
um more muscular there you go um

607
00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:37,620
uh the arms are pretty accurate and then

608
00:27:41,269 --> 00:27:40,320
it had really wide lats and shoulders

609
00:27:43,909 --> 00:27:41,279
but

610
00:27:46,190 --> 00:27:43,919
again this thing was really skinny it

611
00:27:50,149 --> 00:27:46,200
was like sickly you know

612
00:27:53,810 --> 00:27:50,159
um but I mean the way the thing moved

613
00:27:57,289 --> 00:27:53,820
um it moved like a praying mantis with a

614
00:28:01,010 --> 00:27:57,299
cheetah with an ape you know uh it was

615
00:28:03,830 --> 00:28:01,020
spectacular to see this thing move and I

616
00:28:05,870 --> 00:28:03,840
mean imagine you know imagine seeing

617
00:28:10,390 --> 00:28:05,880
this happen in front of you this thing

618
00:28:15,470 --> 00:28:13,250
when it landed did you hear it hit oh my

619
00:28:18,049 --> 00:28:15,480
God yeah I'll never forget that sound I

620
00:28:20,930 --> 00:28:18,059
mean it was just a food and rocks

621
00:28:23,210 --> 00:28:20,940
started tumbling down but you know I

622
00:28:25,370 --> 00:28:23,220
said to myself I was like any normal

623
00:28:28,789 --> 00:28:25,380
creature this thing would be dead right

624
00:28:31,370 --> 00:28:28,799
I mean he was laying flat and I thought

625
00:28:34,610 --> 00:28:31,380
holy crap this thing's dead and the

626
00:28:37,370 --> 00:28:34,620
thing got up after about you know 9 to

627
00:28:40,970 --> 00:28:37,380
12 seconds and I'm like holy crap you

628
00:28:44,390 --> 00:28:40,980
know what what is this so you know

629
00:28:48,669 --> 00:28:44,400
it took me two minutes just to get my

630
00:28:51,830 --> 00:28:48,679
composure again sure so so you know then

631
00:28:54,409 --> 00:28:51,840
that that I come to the realization I

632
00:28:59,269 --> 00:28:54,419
gotta go the exact same way this thing

633
00:29:02,149 --> 00:28:59,279
came or went and uh and I'm trying to

634
00:29:05,289 --> 00:29:02,159
look around the only other option is to

635
00:29:08,210 --> 00:29:05,299
climb the 30-foot

636
00:29:10,789 --> 00:29:08,220
escapement to get up to the to the horse

637
00:29:13,070 --> 00:29:10,799
trail we get out of there to go around

638
00:29:14,870 --> 00:29:13,080
the back way because I mean I didn't

639
00:29:16,070 --> 00:29:14,880
know what this thing was you know I

640
00:29:19,430 --> 00:29:16,080
still don't know what it is you know

641
00:29:21,049 --> 00:29:19,440
after all this research and so my first

642
00:29:24,649 --> 00:29:21,059
my first

643
00:29:26,269 --> 00:29:24,659
uh cognitive you know SMART Train

644
00:29:29,090 --> 00:29:26,279
authorities hey

645
00:29:31,430 --> 00:29:29,100
you know this thing's violent I don't

646
00:29:34,610 --> 00:29:31,440
know what we're dealing with here you

647
00:29:38,590 --> 00:29:34,620
know I gotta want somebody so I actually

648
00:29:41,870 --> 00:29:38,600
start to dial 9-1-1 because you know

649
00:29:44,330 --> 00:29:41,880
that'll be interesting yeah yeah I mean

650
00:29:47,029 --> 00:29:44,340
seriously you know I'm like holy crap

651
00:29:49,130 --> 00:29:47,039
you know I gotta warn people hey you

652
00:29:51,350 --> 00:29:49,140
know this thing's violent in the trees

653
00:29:53,529 --> 00:29:51,360
what's it going to do if it comes across

654
00:29:58,310 --> 00:29:53,539
as you I mean

655
00:30:00,230 --> 00:29:58,320
a a polar bear will be disintegrated by

656
00:30:01,549 --> 00:30:00,240
this thing in a matter of seconds I mean

657
00:30:04,130 --> 00:30:01,559
the violence

658
00:30:06,889 --> 00:30:04,140
I mean this thing was not friendly it

659
00:30:10,610 --> 00:30:06,899
was not friendly at all and and you know

660
00:30:14,330 --> 00:30:10,620
I'm I'm slowly walking down and I'm on

661
00:30:15,950 --> 00:30:14,340
like hyper survival alert mode and I'm

662
00:30:17,870 --> 00:30:15,960
like okay you know that there's train

663
00:30:21,830 --> 00:30:17,880
cars there I mean this thing could be

664
00:30:24,649 --> 00:30:21,840
hiding anywhere along you know that path

665
00:30:26,870 --> 00:30:24,659
to Ambush someone you know I'm I'm just

666
00:30:30,529 --> 00:30:26,880
thinking on the realization here of what

667
00:30:33,350 --> 00:30:30,539
this is so I dial 9-1 and I'm like dude

668
00:30:36,590 --> 00:30:33,360
nobody's gonna believe a world you know

669
00:30:38,330 --> 00:30:36,600
yeah I wouldn't believe it you know but

670
00:30:40,130 --> 00:30:38,340
but you know people are going to look at

671
00:30:43,190 --> 00:30:40,140
you like dude what's this guy I want her

672
00:30:46,250 --> 00:30:43,200
you know whatever so the whole time I

673
00:30:48,049 --> 00:30:46,260
mean conflict uh I want to try and you

674
00:30:50,570 --> 00:30:48,059
know I'm a duck at what I call a state

675
00:30:52,190 --> 00:30:50,580
police do I call a local police I'm

676
00:30:54,769 --> 00:30:52,200
fidgeting with my phone as I'm walking

677
00:30:57,230 --> 00:30:54,779
down my daughter's behind me he's my

678
00:30:59,750 --> 00:30:57,240
number one priority you know to keep her

679
00:31:01,850 --> 00:30:59,760
safe and I mean I don't have a gun on me

680
00:31:04,610 --> 00:31:01,860
all I got is a little pocket though if

681
00:31:07,370 --> 00:31:04,620
you I mean dude forget it game oh I mean

682
00:31:09,529 --> 00:31:07,380
just been there you know bend down on

683
00:31:11,930 --> 00:31:09,539
your knees and pray because you're done

684
00:31:12,950 --> 00:31:11,940
and you know it's been a long story

685
00:31:16,250 --> 00:31:12,960
short

686
00:31:18,049 --> 00:31:16,260
it took us maybe a half hour to walk

687
00:31:21,049 --> 00:31:18,059
back and they were there were a few

688
00:31:23,570 --> 00:31:21,059
other people that I saw coming up

689
00:31:26,330 --> 00:31:23,580
and uh the one the one kid had uh

690
00:31:28,250 --> 00:31:26,340
earbuds and I'm like yo I'm like did you

691
00:31:29,750 --> 00:31:28,260
see any you know you see any creatures

692
00:31:31,850 --> 00:31:29,760
coming through here and you're like nah

693
00:31:34,389 --> 00:31:31,860
man you know they looked at me like okay

694
00:31:37,909 --> 00:31:34,399
you know what's this guy doing you know

695
00:31:40,070 --> 00:31:37,919
so I get back I get back down this truck

696
00:31:43,130 --> 00:31:40,080
and I'm literally shaking I'm like oh my

697
00:31:48,350 --> 00:31:43,140
God you know thank you thank you Jesus I

698
00:31:50,210 --> 00:31:48,360
made it back and so there is a police

699
00:31:52,310 --> 00:31:50,220
cruiser coming through and I'm like okay

700
00:31:54,049 --> 00:31:52,320
you know I'm debating the whole time I'm

701
00:31:57,649 --> 00:31:54,059
like dude I gotta I gotta tell somebody

702
00:31:59,870 --> 00:31:57,659
about this because I mean this thing is

703
00:32:01,490 --> 00:31:59,880
is not friendly you know I don't know

704
00:32:04,549 --> 00:32:01,500
what we're dealing with

705
00:32:08,090 --> 00:32:04,559
and uh so I started walking up

706
00:32:10,310 --> 00:32:08,100
and I was like now just just just

707
00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:10,320
go to the truck and I sat in the truck

708
00:32:18,110 --> 00:32:15,120
for about five minutes uh just just uh

709
00:32:21,169 --> 00:32:18,120
trying to make sense of what I you know

710
00:32:25,430 --> 00:32:21,179
what my daughter and I witnessed and uh

711
00:32:26,690 --> 00:32:25,440
you know those 40 to 50 seconds whatever

712
00:32:29,690 --> 00:32:26,700
it was

713
00:32:31,250 --> 00:32:29,700
uh changed my life forever

714
00:32:35,510 --> 00:32:31,260
um

715
00:32:41,269 --> 00:32:38,210
it doesn't sound like anything that I

716
00:32:42,590 --> 00:32:41,279
have had ever had a report for be honest

717
00:32:45,769 --> 00:32:42,600
with you

718
00:32:50,450 --> 00:32:48,830
it's hard to even tell I mean uh Nancy

719
00:32:53,269 --> 00:32:50,460
asked me if it's a difference between

720
00:32:55,370 --> 00:32:53,279
this Beast and the pale crawlers I mean

721
00:32:58,190 --> 00:32:55,380
you think it's possible that it may have

722
00:33:02,690 --> 00:32:58,200
been something similar to that

723
00:33:05,510 --> 00:33:02,700
it you know I I I've done probably over

724
00:33:07,730 --> 00:33:05,520
a thousand hours of research on all this

725
00:33:10,789 --> 00:33:07,740
stuff I mean I

726
00:33:13,669 --> 00:33:10,799
you know I never wanted this uh you know

727
00:33:15,590 --> 00:33:13,679
I'm just bringing this to the masses I

728
00:33:18,470 --> 00:33:15,600
don't care what people think or say a

729
00:33:20,149 --> 00:33:18,480
lot of people are are uh you know

730
00:33:23,509 --> 00:33:20,159
intimidated they're scared to come on

731
00:33:26,389 --> 00:33:23,519
because of ridicule listen man to all

732
00:33:30,289 --> 00:33:26,399
you people out there I saw this thing

733
00:33:34,789 --> 00:33:30,299
and it's real and I will get answers one

734
00:33:39,289 --> 00:33:34,799
way or no and uh you know it's it's

735
00:33:41,470 --> 00:33:39,299
I I I I've looked at a Paleo

736
00:33:43,789 --> 00:33:41,480
um what would you call it uh

737
00:33:45,769 --> 00:33:43,799
paleoanthropology I mean I've been

738
00:33:49,130 --> 00:33:45,779
reading stuff online I got like six

739
00:33:51,649 --> 00:33:49,140
computers up in my office here that I'm

740
00:33:54,769 --> 00:33:51,659
doing you know I'm doing U.S Geological

741
00:33:58,730 --> 00:33:54,779
Survey terrain data and all this stuff I

742
00:34:00,909 --> 00:33:58,740
mean I um I believe in you know on every

743
00:34:04,070 --> 00:34:00,919
little thing that that I can remember

744
00:34:06,950 --> 00:34:04,080
just to educate myself to even try to

745
00:34:09,169 --> 00:34:06,960
begin to make sense of what I see now

746
00:34:11,690 --> 00:34:09,179
you know one thing I the one thing I

747
00:34:14,389 --> 00:34:11,700
gotta say is and I don't know what you

748
00:34:16,430 --> 00:34:14,399
think about this Tim is but of any

749
00:34:18,530 --> 00:34:16,440
Cryptid that we've ever had in a

750
00:34:21,290 --> 00:34:18,540
description of or anybody's had an

751
00:34:23,869 --> 00:34:21,300
encounter with this one probably has

752
00:34:26,210 --> 00:34:23,879
more Supernatural possibilities to it

753
00:34:27,349 --> 00:34:26,220
than anything I've ever heard what do

754
00:34:31,669 --> 00:34:27,359
you think Tim

755
00:34:34,730 --> 00:34:31,679
yeah I mean for me you know it's hard to

756
00:34:37,730 --> 00:34:34,740
imagine there's a breeding population of

757
00:34:40,129 --> 00:34:37,740
whatever this is absolutely you know I

758
00:34:43,310 --> 00:34:40,139
agree I mean I mean you know I'm

759
00:34:45,589 --> 00:34:43,320
I I didn't sleep I'm not I'm not gonna

760
00:34:47,869 --> 00:34:45,599
lie I didn't sleep for almost three days

761
00:34:49,669 --> 00:34:47,879
straight I mean I was so weird no I mean

762
00:34:53,089 --> 00:34:49,679
I know what I saw

763
00:34:57,710 --> 00:34:53,099
I mean I went on I went on the PA Game

764
00:35:00,109 --> 00:34:57,720
Commission website or dcnr I mean I went

765
00:35:02,510 --> 00:35:00,119
on all kinds of different things you

766
00:35:05,089 --> 00:35:02,520
know trying to look at you know apex

767
00:35:07,490 --> 00:35:05,099
predators and Pa you know trying trying

768
00:35:09,109 --> 00:35:07,500
to go from a scientific standpoint yeah

769
00:35:11,569 --> 00:35:09,119
I can tell you one thing the

770
00:35:13,750 --> 00:35:11,579
Pennsylvania's uh Game Commission has no

771
00:35:16,130 --> 00:35:13,760
record of something like that

772
00:35:18,410 --> 00:35:16,140
and if they did they wouldn't tell you

773
00:35:20,210 --> 00:35:18,420
uh I mean they won't even return the

774
00:35:23,870 --> 00:35:20,220
mountain lines in the state let alone

775
00:35:26,030 --> 00:35:23,880
one of these things yeah you know so I

776
00:35:29,329 --> 00:35:26,040
reached out to Native Americans as well

777
00:35:32,089 --> 00:35:29,339
yeah I'm in the process of meeting with

778
00:35:33,650 --> 00:35:32,099
uh five different tribes in three

779
00:35:37,010 --> 00:35:33,660
different states

780
00:35:40,370 --> 00:35:37,020
um I have uh you know contacts for that

781
00:35:43,609 --> 00:35:40,380
um and you know one of the Native

782
00:35:46,730 --> 00:35:43,619
Americans said I did talk to said that

783
00:35:48,890 --> 00:35:46,740
they think it was a skinwalker yeah of

784
00:35:50,750 --> 00:35:48,900
course you're going to get that yeah but

785
00:35:52,970 --> 00:35:50,760
yeah somebody's gonna think it's either

786
00:35:55,430 --> 00:35:52,980
either some type of uh

787
00:35:58,010 --> 00:35:55,440
some type of Witcher

788
00:36:03,109 --> 00:35:58,020
some type of shapeshifter or some type

789
00:36:07,010 --> 00:36:03,119
of spiritual being yeah I mean I

790
00:36:10,069 --> 00:36:07,020
you know as far as any tribes or

791
00:36:11,990 --> 00:36:10,079
remnants of tribes that

792
00:36:14,030 --> 00:36:12,000
were in this area

793
00:36:17,690 --> 00:36:14,040
I don't know they're you know of any

794
00:36:19,670 --> 00:36:17,700
Leni lanape or Delaware Tim that have

795
00:36:21,950 --> 00:36:19,680
any uh

796
00:36:24,170 --> 00:36:21,960
any standing around here yet or in this

797
00:36:26,510 --> 00:36:24,180
area yeah it's so hard I mean people ask

798
00:36:28,130 --> 00:36:26,520
me this all the time yeah what what did

799
00:36:29,569 --> 00:36:28,140
the Native Americans in your area you

800
00:36:34,210 --> 00:36:29,579
know believe about this stuff and it's

801
00:36:39,589 --> 00:36:37,069
the last the last tribe that was in this

802
00:36:42,650 --> 00:36:39,599
area with the Shawnee and they moved off

803
00:36:44,990 --> 00:36:42,660
and our all moved off and yeah you know

804
00:36:47,390 --> 00:36:45,000
even the Susquehanna and all the the

805
00:36:48,589 --> 00:36:47,400
strange ritual stuff that they had I

806
00:36:50,829 --> 00:36:48,599
don't know

807
00:36:52,849 --> 00:36:50,839
and we lost we lost their language

808
00:36:56,870 --> 00:36:52,859
we don't we don't know what they

809
00:37:00,109 --> 00:36:56,880
believed really yeah um Matt before this

810
00:37:02,270 --> 00:37:00,119
happened yeah what were your your just

811
00:37:04,790 --> 00:37:02,280
general feeling going like say Bigfoot

812
00:37:06,170 --> 00:37:04,800
Sasquatch had you even heard of dog man

813
00:37:10,849 --> 00:37:06,180
Etc

814
00:37:15,650 --> 00:37:10,859
um I I had a strange encounter in 1991

815
00:37:17,750 --> 00:37:15,660
uh hunting up in uh Bradford County uh

816
00:37:21,589 --> 00:37:17,760
actually yeah

817
00:37:24,410 --> 00:37:21,599
um and uh now I didn't see it but I had

818
00:37:28,250 --> 00:37:24,420
five dough come down and stand like

819
00:37:31,010 --> 00:37:28,260
right next to me which is highly unusual

820
00:37:34,970 --> 00:37:31,020
as far as learning this was the second

821
00:37:36,530 --> 00:37:34,980
day of buck season and uh we were we

822
00:37:39,589 --> 00:37:36,540
were probably about six miles from the

823
00:37:41,450 --> 00:37:39,599
New York border and now I had heard

824
00:37:44,390 --> 00:37:41,460
something coming through it sounded big

825
00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:44,400
but I never officially saw it you know

826
00:37:49,730 --> 00:37:47,040
you you hear about you know how how the

827
00:37:53,870 --> 00:37:49,740
smell you know um you know that smells

828
00:37:56,450 --> 00:37:53,880
right right you know super bad uh now I

829
00:37:57,950 --> 00:37:56,460
did smell that but as far as the Bigfoot

830
00:38:00,890 --> 00:37:57,960
you know hey I

831
00:38:03,470 --> 00:38:00,900
I've always had an open mind you know um

832
00:38:06,650 --> 00:38:03,480
being a technical guy you know myself I

833
00:38:09,710 --> 00:38:06,660
learned I learned you know very very

834
00:38:11,510 --> 00:38:09,720
from a very young age that if you have

835
00:38:14,450 --> 00:38:11,520
an open mind you're going to learn 20

836
00:38:17,690 --> 00:38:14,460
times more you know than somebody that

837
00:38:20,089 --> 00:38:17,700
doesn't so you know I had heard a dog

838
00:38:21,770 --> 00:38:20,099
man I never really you know did the

839
00:38:24,109 --> 00:38:21,780
research on it

840
00:38:27,770 --> 00:38:24,119
um and I I watched like Les Strauss and

841
00:38:30,170 --> 00:38:27,780
you know stuff like yeah stuff like that

842
00:38:33,290 --> 00:38:30,180
and yeah hey you know I was skeptical

843
00:38:35,270 --> 00:38:33,300
but you know I I was like well you know

844
00:38:37,490 --> 00:38:35,280
the history you know every single

845
00:38:41,030 --> 00:38:37,500
indigenous tribe in North America

846
00:38:43,670 --> 00:38:41,040
including Canada and even Mexico they

847
00:38:47,990 --> 00:38:43,680
have you know they have names for this

848
00:38:50,089 --> 00:38:48,000
stuff over a millennia so you know I

849
00:38:51,950 --> 00:38:50,099
think they do exist and and you know

850
00:38:53,690 --> 00:38:51,960
well you don't need to know what the

851
00:38:56,030 --> 00:38:53,700
name what their name for this thing is

852
00:38:58,069 --> 00:38:56,040
because I quite frankly I've never even

853
00:38:59,690 --> 00:38:58,079
heard of anything like this I mean this

854
00:39:02,569 --> 00:38:59,700
would come close

855
00:39:06,170 --> 00:39:02,579
wouldn't even come close to a wendigo or

856
00:39:09,589 --> 00:39:06,180
anything like that I mean yeah yeah I I

857
00:39:13,430 --> 00:39:09,599
I you know again I

858
00:39:15,230 --> 00:39:13,440
um I looked at uh the crawler stuff you

859
00:39:16,670 --> 00:39:15,240
know like all you know all this learning

860
00:39:18,170 --> 00:39:16,680
all this you know I was like well let me

861
00:39:21,170 --> 00:39:18,180
ask you this so we've got some questions

862
00:39:23,030 --> 00:39:21,180
in the chat yeah uh some of these are

863
00:39:24,349 --> 00:39:23,040
interesting and Nancy asked you know

864
00:39:27,349 --> 00:39:24,359
this is something that we've talked

865
00:39:30,609 --> 00:39:27,359
about before with orbs and lights did

866
00:39:36,230 --> 00:39:30,619
you see anything like that at any time

867
00:39:39,410 --> 00:39:36,240
no no nothing no I mean have you had any

868
00:39:40,790 --> 00:39:39,420
Paranormal Activity since this encounter

869
00:39:47,990 --> 00:39:40,800
no

870
00:39:50,810 --> 00:39:48,000
I lived in a haunted house uh it was

871
00:39:54,109 --> 00:39:50,820
actually in Berks County's uh Most

872
00:39:56,329 --> 00:39:54,119
Wanted areas uh and that was you know 15

873
00:39:59,210 --> 00:39:56,339
years before and we saw some crazy

874
00:40:02,089 --> 00:39:59,220
strange stuff I never saw any ghosts but

875
00:40:04,670 --> 00:40:02,099
we saw things move you know like the

876
00:40:06,470 --> 00:40:04,680
typical paranormal stuff but I mean as

877
00:40:09,050 --> 00:40:06,480
far as Jim moved down I mean I I

878
00:40:11,690 --> 00:40:09,060
actually had a few friends in high

879
00:40:13,790 --> 00:40:11,700
school who were who practiced that Woods

880
00:40:16,849 --> 00:40:13,800
Craft and stuff and I was like you know

881
00:40:18,770 --> 00:40:16,859
I I was raised Roman Catholics so you

882
00:40:20,990 --> 00:40:18,780
know I didn't believe any of that never

883
00:40:23,150 --> 00:40:21,000
really wanted to mess with it you know I

884
00:40:24,609 --> 00:40:23,160
was if it didn't have a motor on it I

885
00:40:27,770 --> 00:40:24,619
wasn't interested

886
00:40:29,750 --> 00:40:27,780
I'm an adrenaline junkie and a in a

887
00:40:32,150 --> 00:40:29,760
machines by trade and you know I like

888
00:40:34,730 --> 00:40:32,160
all that kind of stuff so I never you

889
00:40:36,230 --> 00:40:34,740
know I've heard about it and um you know

890
00:40:39,230 --> 00:40:36,240
I never

891
00:40:40,910 --> 00:40:39,240
I'd never ridiculed anyone because you

892
00:40:43,970 --> 00:40:40,920
know I mean there's stuff out there that

893
00:40:45,349 --> 00:40:43,980
that people don't know what it is you

894
00:40:49,130 --> 00:40:45,359
know I mean every year that they find

895
00:40:51,410 --> 00:40:49,140
new new species they find new new things

896
00:40:54,349 --> 00:40:51,420
and uh you know it's been an incredible

897
00:40:56,210 --> 00:40:54,359
journey for me to try and figure out you

898
00:40:58,250 --> 00:40:56,220
know what I saw and I'm not afraid I

899
00:40:59,210 --> 00:40:58,260
mean I know what I saw

900
00:41:02,089 --> 00:40:59,220
um

901
00:41:05,150 --> 00:41:02,099
did you did you notice the eyes at all

902
00:41:08,210 --> 00:41:05,160
with were they were you able to get a

903
00:41:10,970 --> 00:41:08,220
close one enough look at the eyes to

904
00:41:14,329 --> 00:41:10,980
tell the cover did you notice any other

905
00:41:18,109 --> 00:41:14,339
odor on it or anything that that any

906
00:41:21,290 --> 00:41:18,119
anything anything other uh identifying

907
00:41:24,349 --> 00:41:21,300
no aspect of it that you know was kind

908
00:41:26,329 --> 00:41:24,359
of unusual I I never saw the eyes

909
00:41:29,089 --> 00:41:26,339
because like I said you know this is

910
00:41:31,250 --> 00:41:29,099
about 100 feet away and yeah

911
00:41:34,190 --> 00:41:31,260
um you know being a machinist and and

912
00:41:36,890 --> 00:41:34,200
you know and Manufacturing you know you

913
00:41:39,589 --> 00:41:36,900
know dealing with that stuff I I can

914
00:41:42,290 --> 00:41:39,599
scale stuff pretty good because uh when

915
00:41:44,690 --> 00:41:42,300
this thing was running up the uh

916
00:41:47,930 --> 00:41:44,700
across the Quarry after you know it had

917
00:41:49,790 --> 00:41:47,940
landed on this rock there uh which again

918
00:41:52,310 --> 00:41:49,800
was a 60 degree angle I mean this

919
00:41:55,030 --> 00:41:52,320
thing's walking right along that rock

920
00:41:58,670 --> 00:41:55,040
bed all around you know that same level

921
00:42:01,790 --> 00:41:58,680
and then it jumped up and like jumped up

922
00:42:03,950 --> 00:42:01,800
um you know there was a 55 gallon drum

923
00:42:06,770 --> 00:42:03,960
that was sitting up on I guess it was

924
00:42:10,010 --> 00:42:06,780
like a roadway or an entrance you know

925
00:42:12,470 --> 00:42:10,020
down and I'm like holy crap I mean that

926
00:42:14,990 --> 00:42:12,480
thing you know that 55 gallon drone was

927
00:42:17,089 --> 00:42:15,000
small and then there was a like a little

928
00:42:19,490 --> 00:42:17,099
piece of equipment it was like a

929
00:42:22,430 --> 00:42:19,500
hydraulic steam or whatever so you know

930
00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:22,440
I kind of I'm just estimating but I was

931
00:42:27,829 --> 00:42:24,720
I wasn't up close on this thing I mean

932
00:42:31,730 --> 00:42:27,839
it was a good 100 feet away you know so

933
00:42:34,490 --> 00:42:31,740
I I didn't get a good look at its at its

934
00:42:36,470 --> 00:42:34,500
uh you know eyes I mean it was far away

935
00:42:38,210 --> 00:42:36,480
yeah I think that might be one of the

936
00:42:40,550 --> 00:42:38,220
last things I looked at but I you know

937
00:42:41,870 --> 00:42:40,560
yeah especially if your daughter's there

938
00:42:43,910 --> 00:42:41,880
I mean you're you're absolutely

939
00:42:46,250 --> 00:42:43,920
absolutely yeah that that's what I was

940
00:42:49,010 --> 00:42:46,260
thinking yeah well you know what was her

941
00:42:50,990 --> 00:42:49,020
reaction to it oh I mean she you know

942
00:42:53,450 --> 00:42:51,000
she's like Dad what was that you know

943
00:42:55,490 --> 00:42:53,460
and I mean being in the woods I mean

944
00:42:58,670 --> 00:42:55,500
I've been in National Parks I mean I've

945
00:43:00,770 --> 00:42:58,680
you know I I White Water rafted uh you

946
00:43:04,490 --> 00:43:00,780
know the gray smoke amounts for 10 days

947
00:43:05,569 --> 00:43:04,500
I mean and never you know I've been 60

948
00:43:09,230 --> 00:43:05,579
miles

949
00:43:12,770 --> 00:43:09,240
deep in that in that Park you know years

950
00:43:14,809 --> 00:43:12,780
later never never had the fear of the

951
00:43:17,329 --> 00:43:14,819
woods I mean

952
00:43:19,609 --> 00:43:17,339
um I saw a bear you know fishing in PA

953
00:43:21,230 --> 00:43:19,619
you know nine times out of ten unless

954
00:43:23,870 --> 00:43:21,240
they got Cubs they're gonna run the

955
00:43:25,490 --> 00:43:23,880
other way you know I I know what Bearer

956
00:43:28,250 --> 00:43:25,500
I mean I've seen bear from an early age

957
00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:28,260
my uncle had a cabin up in Sullivan

958
00:43:33,589 --> 00:43:30,480
County and they used to the Game

959
00:43:35,630 --> 00:43:33,599
Commission used to put uh roadkills out

960
00:43:37,250 --> 00:43:35,640
in the back well you know the Bears

961
00:43:38,750 --> 00:43:37,260
would come in and scavenge it so we

962
00:43:41,569 --> 00:43:38,760
would sit there and Spotlight with them

963
00:43:43,309 --> 00:43:41,579
you know you know Spotlight them so you

964
00:43:46,609 --> 00:43:43,319
know I mean this thing

965
00:43:48,589 --> 00:43:46,619
again you know imagine the shock you

966
00:43:50,750 --> 00:43:48,599
know you're standing there this thing's

967
00:43:54,950 --> 00:43:50,760
only 100 feet away from you

968
00:43:56,690 --> 00:43:54,960
and you know I'm trying to make sense of

969
00:43:59,930 --> 00:43:56,700
what I'm looking at I'm like okay is

970
00:44:03,530 --> 00:43:59,940
this a bear you know your mind goes

971
00:44:06,530 --> 00:44:03,540
through I'm like bear gorilla Mountain

972
00:44:08,990 --> 00:44:06,540
line you know it's like no no no no and

973
00:44:10,910 --> 00:44:09,000
and then you know you see this thing

974
00:44:13,490 --> 00:44:10,920
fall out of the tree

975
00:44:15,950 --> 00:44:13,500
you know and I thought it was that I

976
00:44:18,410 --> 00:44:15,960
mean you know I I just couldn't believe

977
00:44:20,510 --> 00:44:18,420
it that's what really scared me then I'm

978
00:44:23,150 --> 00:44:20,520
like whoa what the [\h__\h] this thing just

979
00:44:26,030 --> 00:44:23,160
got up I mean you know anything that

980
00:44:28,970 --> 00:44:26,040
even a bear falling 60 feet is going to

981
00:44:32,690 --> 00:44:28,980
be injured that's unusual I mean the

982
00:44:35,990 --> 00:44:32,700
tree thing in a canine for one thing

983
00:44:37,790 --> 00:44:36,000
yeah yeah exactly that's something that

984
00:44:40,910 --> 00:44:37,800
you would expect from maybe a Sasquatch

985
00:44:42,589 --> 00:44:40,920
or a big cat or something right as far

986
00:44:45,589 --> 00:44:42,599
as you know I I don't you know I've

987
00:44:48,470 --> 00:44:45,599
heard a lot of descriptions of these

988
00:44:50,390 --> 00:44:48,480
cryptic canines and I can't I can't even

989
00:44:52,370 --> 00:44:50,400
remember

990
00:44:54,349 --> 00:44:52,380
anything about being in a tree

991
00:44:58,010 --> 00:44:54,359
associated with one of these things Yeah

992
00:44:59,089 --> 00:44:58,020
well yeah and and you know that's

993
00:45:01,490 --> 00:44:59,099
um

994
00:45:05,150 --> 00:45:01,500
throughout my journey you know through

995
00:45:07,430 --> 00:45:05,160
the research I I just I just wrote down

996
00:45:08,630 --> 00:45:07,440
everything that I could remember about

997
00:45:10,849 --> 00:45:08,640
it and

998
00:45:13,430 --> 00:45:10,859
one thing that I thought was startling

999
00:45:15,890 --> 00:45:13,440
about it it this thing looked like it

1000
00:45:18,829 --> 00:45:15,900
was sickly you know like I said like it

1001
00:45:22,190 --> 00:45:18,839
like it hibernated it was it was very

1002
00:45:23,510 --> 00:45:22,200
skinny but strong fast I mean I I

1003
00:45:27,109 --> 00:45:23,520
couldn't believe

1004
00:45:30,650 --> 00:45:27,119
you know it's still hard to even

1005
00:45:33,710 --> 00:45:30,660
comprehend you know what this was so I

1006
00:45:35,569 --> 00:45:33,720
just don't you know on a on a wing in a

1007
00:45:37,670 --> 00:45:35,579
prayer I started doing research and I'm

1008
00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:37,680
like okay you know what I'm going to go

1009
00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:40,079
into U.S Geological Survey here and just

1010
00:45:44,870 --> 00:45:42,240
start doing the Subterranean you know

1011
00:45:47,390 --> 00:45:44,880
see if there's Minds gigs you know all

1012
00:45:50,690 --> 00:45:47,400
this stuff well I found out some really

1013
00:45:54,770 --> 00:45:50,700
interesting data as far as multiple

1014
00:45:57,050 --> 00:45:54,780
areas and uh I I I know I texted you on

1015
00:46:00,290 --> 00:45:57,060
about this and Tim I talked to you you

1016
00:46:03,410 --> 00:46:00,300
know a little bit on it there is coarse

1017
00:46:05,750 --> 00:46:03,420
areas in a lot of these sightings

1018
00:46:07,790 --> 00:46:05,760
since I've been on YouTube and you know

1019
00:46:10,010 --> 00:46:07,800
researching different dog man forms and

1020
00:46:14,089 --> 00:46:10,020
stuff like that people give locations so

1021
00:46:17,690 --> 00:46:14,099
I go in and I do terrain at it and

1022
00:46:21,550 --> 00:46:17,700
there's five positive things that keep

1023
00:46:26,089 --> 00:46:21,560
coming up in these areas one is there's

1024
00:46:27,950 --> 00:46:26,099
Limestone Springs or or car stairs that

1025
00:46:30,170 --> 00:46:27,960
have Subterranean features to where

1026
00:46:33,710 --> 00:46:30,180
there's a possibility of

1027
00:46:36,410 --> 00:46:33,720
uh you know underground Caverns a den or

1028
00:46:38,089 --> 00:46:36,420
something like that outcrops

1029
00:46:40,250 --> 00:46:38,099
um the interesting thing is there's a

1030
00:46:42,109 --> 00:46:40,260
north-south ridge in a lot of these

1031
00:46:44,569 --> 00:46:42,119
places you know like down in Kentucky

1032
00:46:46,670 --> 00:46:44,579
you kind of see you know some of these

1033
00:46:48,829 --> 00:46:46,680
sighting areas that I've found online

1034
00:46:52,910 --> 00:46:48,839
not only that

1035
00:46:55,430 --> 00:46:52,920
um even up in New York and and Pa that

1036
00:46:57,950 --> 00:46:55,440
those patterns keep coming up every

1037
00:46:59,750 --> 00:46:57,960
single time you know to where I can get

1038
00:47:02,750 --> 00:46:59,760
a definitive

1039
00:47:05,870 --> 00:47:02,760
area on that so because I have something

1040
00:47:08,030 --> 00:47:05,880
to play you know uh with that I don't

1041
00:47:09,410 --> 00:47:08,040
know you know like they're saying you

1042
00:47:12,170 --> 00:47:09,420
know there has to be a breeding

1043
00:47:14,030 --> 00:47:12,180
population you know the one thing if the

1044
00:47:17,270 --> 00:47:14,040
one thing that really fascinates about

1045
00:47:20,450 --> 00:47:17,280
this and about this and the location is

1046
00:47:23,569 --> 00:47:20,460
this is right behind Butch's house I

1047
00:47:26,390 --> 00:47:23,579
mean basically I mean this this was

1048
00:47:31,190 --> 00:47:26,400
where Butch did his research

1049
00:47:34,790 --> 00:47:31,200
yeah and and you know yeah

1050
00:47:37,970 --> 00:47:34,800
it's crazy this is bizarre it is bizarre

1051
00:47:40,430 --> 00:47:37,980
I mean you know I

1052
00:47:43,309 --> 00:47:40,440
I didn't sleep for three days I mean

1053
00:47:46,370 --> 00:47:43,319
literally I was I was like dude what

1054
00:47:48,950 --> 00:47:46,380
what did I just witness here have you

1055
00:47:51,710 --> 00:47:48,960
been back to the area Matt yeah yeah

1056
00:47:55,550 --> 00:47:51,720
um me and a friend of mine went up uh

1057
00:47:57,710 --> 00:47:55,560
and uh you know we were we were kind of

1058
00:48:00,890 --> 00:47:57,720
late because you know

1059
00:48:02,930 --> 00:48:00,900
um Eric mantel and uh you know Lana said

1060
00:48:05,829 --> 00:48:02,940
about doing an investigation

1061
00:48:08,750 --> 00:48:05,839
and you know hey

1062
00:48:10,910 --> 00:48:08,760
I don't know what this thing will do if

1063
00:48:13,370 --> 00:48:10,920
if you would come face to face with this

1064
00:48:17,329 --> 00:48:13,380
thing you know it didn't see us I know

1065
00:48:20,329 --> 00:48:17,339
that for a fact and you know I even

1066
00:48:22,730 --> 00:48:20,339
I was even young like holy crap you know

1067
00:48:24,650 --> 00:48:22,740
and you know when I got back to the

1068
00:48:27,349 --> 00:48:24,660
truck I was like

1069
00:48:28,609 --> 00:48:27,359
why did you make that sound that was a

1070
00:48:30,589 --> 00:48:28,619
little danger that this scene could have

1071
00:48:33,290 --> 00:48:30,599
you know if it were sauce it could kill

1072
00:48:37,250 --> 00:48:33,300
us I mean and and

1073
00:48:39,349 --> 00:48:37,260
I just I'm still under loss of words I

1074
00:48:41,750 --> 00:48:39,359
really am could you tell what kind of

1075
00:48:44,690 --> 00:48:41,760
birds it had under its arms

1076
00:48:46,430 --> 00:48:44,700
um yeah it was uh I thought maybe it was

1077
00:48:49,609 --> 00:48:46,440
wild turkeys but they were turkey

1078
00:48:51,109 --> 00:48:49,619
buzzers because the exact tree where we

1079
00:48:53,390 --> 00:48:51,119
had gone back up

1080
00:48:54,950 --> 00:48:53,400
the exact tree where this thing was in

1081
00:48:58,190 --> 00:48:54,960
there was a turkey buzzards and that's

1082
00:49:00,290 --> 00:48:58,200
from there and my friend even said to me

1083
00:49:02,510 --> 00:49:00,300
he goes look there's turkey buses in

1084
00:49:03,890 --> 00:49:02,520
that tree and I said you're right

1085
00:49:06,470 --> 00:49:03,900
because they would they would you know

1086
00:49:08,630 --> 00:49:06,480
to come come and go but you know it

1087
00:49:11,390 --> 00:49:08,640
makes sense now because I wrote all this

1088
00:49:13,550 --> 00:49:11,400
stuff down and

1089
00:49:15,470 --> 00:49:13,560
when I heard this sounds that's what he

1090
00:49:17,390 --> 00:49:15,480
was doing this thing was in the trees it

1091
00:49:19,790 --> 00:49:17,400
was chasing some type of

1092
00:49:22,190 --> 00:49:19,800
a bird at first I thought it was an

1093
00:49:24,770 --> 00:49:22,200
eagle because you know it's early spring

1094
00:49:26,870 --> 00:49:24,780
and there's migration you know I thought

1095
00:49:29,390 --> 00:49:26,880
maybe Eagles were coming in you know

1096
00:49:32,270 --> 00:49:29,400
getting some Hawks or you know Predators

1097
00:49:34,550 --> 00:49:32,280
but you know when this when I saw this

1098
00:49:36,050 --> 00:49:34,560
song come out you know I couldn't

1099
00:49:37,790 --> 00:49:36,060
believe what I was seeing and then it

1100
00:49:40,970 --> 00:49:37,800
jumped from that tree to the other tree

1101
00:49:45,950 --> 00:49:40,980
it just it just totally defied

1102
00:49:48,230 --> 00:49:45,960
everything that I knew you know I I I

1103
00:49:51,170 --> 00:49:48,240
was just completely dumbfounded and

1104
00:49:53,690 --> 00:49:51,180
still am so you know slowly but surely

1105
00:49:56,450 --> 00:49:53,700
I'm trying to trying to put things

1106
00:49:59,089 --> 00:49:56,460
together to uh you know put pieces to

1107
00:50:02,930 --> 00:49:59,099
the puzzle see you know what this thing

1108
00:50:05,210 --> 00:50:02,940
is number one number two and you know I

1109
00:50:07,849 --> 00:50:05,220
it was kind of weird because the skin

1110
00:50:10,670 --> 00:50:07,859
was so pale on it

1111
00:50:12,829 --> 00:50:10,680
um it was you know I don't know if it

1112
00:50:15,770 --> 00:50:12,839
was hibernating because it was so skinny

1113
00:50:17,270 --> 00:50:15,780
or if it's Subterranean you know I don't

1114
00:50:19,490 --> 00:50:17,280
know so that's

1115
00:50:21,829 --> 00:50:19,500
that's where I've been focusing you know

1116
00:50:23,870 --> 00:50:21,839
you mentioned made a good made a good

1117
00:50:25,849 --> 00:50:23,880
point here what does a supernatural

1118
00:50:27,470 --> 00:50:25,859
creature need to eat turkey buzzards or

1119
00:50:30,349 --> 00:50:27,480
anything eat anything for that matter

1120
00:50:33,170 --> 00:50:30,359
exactly

1121
00:50:36,170 --> 00:50:33,180
I don't know you know but you know when

1122
00:50:38,150 --> 00:50:36,180
you think about this

1123
00:50:40,490 --> 00:50:38,160
I mean that's the only thing I can think

1124
00:50:41,569 --> 00:50:40,500
of I can't even imagine something like

1125
00:50:47,990 --> 00:50:41,579
this

1126
00:50:50,809 --> 00:50:48,000
right we gotta breed without us knowing

1127
00:50:53,750 --> 00:50:50,819
about it yeah absolutely yeah I agree

1128
00:50:56,510 --> 00:50:53,760
100 I I mean you know I

1129
00:50:58,250 --> 00:50:56,520
I was just like dude this thing exists I

1130
00:50:59,329 --> 00:50:58,260
mean I've seen it I didn't know what I

1131
00:51:01,490 --> 00:50:59,339
saw

1132
00:51:04,010 --> 00:51:01,500
um I mean I went through

1133
00:51:07,490 --> 00:51:04,020
I was on The Game Commission site for

1134
00:51:10,010 --> 00:51:07,500
probably 17 hours straight

1135
00:51:11,329 --> 00:51:10,020
you know Sunday trying trying to figure

1136
00:51:13,250 --> 00:51:11,339
out okay

1137
00:51:14,930 --> 00:51:13,260
at first I thought it was a bear with

1138
00:51:17,930 --> 00:51:14,940
mange or you know something like that

1139
00:51:20,450 --> 00:51:17,940
but it was too big I mean yeah I mean

1140
00:51:24,530 --> 00:51:20,460
this thing it it it's

1141
00:51:27,049 --> 00:51:24,540
it's just insane it it truly is and you

1142
00:51:32,030 --> 00:51:27,059
know I I I'm bringing it out to you guys

1143
00:51:34,329 --> 00:51:32,040
because I know what I saw and you know I

1144
00:51:37,370 --> 00:51:34,339
I don't know I

1145
00:51:39,770 --> 00:51:37,380
well I mean like I said before this is

1146
00:51:42,650 --> 00:51:39,780
this isn't even near anything that we've

1147
00:51:45,530 --> 00:51:42,660
ever heard about before I mean we've

1148
00:51:47,470 --> 00:51:45,540
heard some crazy things but I I this is

1149
00:51:49,970 --> 00:51:47,480
just

1150
00:51:53,390 --> 00:51:49,980
this is like a mix of some many

1151
00:51:54,650 --> 00:51:53,400
different type of Cryptids yeah or you

1152
00:52:02,270 --> 00:51:54,660
know

1153
00:52:04,490 --> 00:52:02,280
abandoned buildings with a mild sighting

1154
00:52:07,490 --> 00:52:04,500
I mean is there any place to hide or

1155
00:52:10,069 --> 00:52:07,500
live out oh yeah there's I mean you know

1156
00:52:12,770 --> 00:52:10,079
I I think this thing

1157
00:52:14,450 --> 00:52:12,780
when I was younger I was in my teens we

1158
00:52:18,470 --> 00:52:14,460
used to go to hate creeping fish all the

1159
00:52:20,809 --> 00:52:18,480
time it was probably being 17 18 almost

1160
00:52:23,630 --> 00:52:20,819
20 years I guess since I've been up in

1161
00:52:26,030 --> 00:52:23,640
there and uh but yes there are there are

1162
00:52:27,589 --> 00:52:26,040
a few abandoned buildings uh up in that

1163
00:52:29,630 --> 00:52:27,599
area

1164
00:52:31,849 --> 00:52:29,640
um but you know I we were actually in

1165
00:52:33,349 --> 00:52:31,859
the one you know on the way up uh my

1166
00:52:35,930 --> 00:52:33,359
daughter was like hey what's that it was

1167
00:52:38,210 --> 00:52:35,940
an old there's no maintenance you know

1168
00:52:40,309 --> 00:52:38,220
building it's all falling over and

1169
00:52:42,589 --> 00:52:40,319
there's a lot of junk and debris and

1170
00:52:45,770 --> 00:52:42,599
stuff so I I didn't really want to go

1171
00:52:47,750 --> 00:52:45,780
into it you know because well you think

1172
00:52:51,170 --> 00:52:47,760
something like this would have to

1173
00:52:54,049 --> 00:52:51,180
be going someplace very deep underground

1174
00:52:55,730 --> 00:52:54,059
or a cave or well that's the thing I

1175
00:52:57,829 --> 00:52:55,740
mean I mean uh

1176
00:52:59,870 --> 00:52:57,839
I I you know

1177
00:53:01,910 --> 00:52:59,880
I've been on Google Earth you know

1178
00:53:03,890 --> 00:53:01,920
looking because this thing is not going

1179
00:53:06,109 --> 00:53:03,900
to live in your Woods I mean it will

1180
00:53:09,230 --> 00:53:06,119
stick out like a sore thumb and how big

1181
00:53:12,410 --> 00:53:09,240
it was so you know

1182
00:53:14,270 --> 00:53:12,420
me and my buddy went flying a few weeks

1183
00:53:16,790 --> 00:53:14,280
back and uh you know we went up over

1184
00:53:19,790 --> 00:53:16,800
that area well the leaves are still

1185
00:53:23,030 --> 00:53:19,800
wanted so I have a friend who uh is

1186
00:53:23,930 --> 00:53:23,040
going to get me um Google pro Earth

1187
00:53:26,270 --> 00:53:23,940
um

1188
00:53:28,910 --> 00:53:26,280
or Google Earth Pro and we're going to

1189
00:53:31,970 --> 00:53:28,920
go through and do that so on the lease

1190
00:53:33,650 --> 00:53:31,980
they'll uh come completely off we're

1191
00:53:36,410 --> 00:53:33,660
actually going to do some low altitude

1192
00:53:38,870 --> 00:53:36,420
flying for several hours and we're gonna

1193
00:53:42,170 --> 00:53:38,880
we're gonna go up and down the East-West

1194
00:53:45,170 --> 00:53:42,180
ridges and you know look for outcrops or

1195
00:53:46,250 --> 00:53:45,180
anything in there and you know

1196
00:53:48,829 --> 00:53:46,260
um

1197
00:53:51,410 --> 00:53:48,839
Bert or Chester County now

1198
00:53:53,569 --> 00:53:51,420
I've done this research too I'm not the

1199
00:53:56,750 --> 00:53:53,579
only one who has seen this

1200
00:53:59,329 --> 00:53:56,760
um because there's been sightings since

1201
00:54:02,390 --> 00:53:59,339
1975.

1202
00:54:04,250 --> 00:54:02,400
of a similar creature which you know I

1203
00:54:07,069 --> 00:54:04,260
guess it's been labeled a dog man or

1204
00:54:10,970 --> 00:54:07,079
whatever so I'm just trying to label it

1205
00:54:12,829 --> 00:54:10,980
as a dog man no I mean specifically

1206
00:54:15,410 --> 00:54:12,839
we've had all kinds of different slaves

1207
00:54:16,370 --> 00:54:15,420
but as far as this thing I I'll be

1208
00:54:19,309 --> 00:54:16,380
honest with you I've never heard

1209
00:54:22,370 --> 00:54:19,319
anything like this yeah and and you know

1210
00:54:26,089 --> 00:54:22,380
again I'm just trying to so we get these

1211
00:54:31,430 --> 00:54:26,099
hyena type of creatures water beds

1212
00:54:33,890 --> 00:54:31,440
bipeds mostly quadrupeds uh we get these

1213
00:54:37,430 --> 00:54:33,900
things that look like the the Lichen

1214
00:54:40,490 --> 00:54:37,440
creatures from the uh the underworld

1215
00:54:43,690 --> 00:54:40,500
movies and you know no that's 10 foot

1216
00:54:46,190 --> 00:54:43,700
tall things I mean

1217
00:54:49,250 --> 00:54:46,200
this is like a nightmare compared to

1218
00:54:50,270 --> 00:54:49,260
those things yeah I mean it was similar

1219
00:54:53,270 --> 00:54:50,280
you know

1220
00:54:56,210 --> 00:54:53,280
um I've never seen it crawler and you

1221
00:54:59,690 --> 00:54:56,220
know I'm just taking bits and pieces of

1222
00:55:02,569 --> 00:54:59,700
of all these scriptures to say okay can

1223
00:55:05,390 --> 00:55:02,579
I specifically

1224
00:55:08,270 --> 00:55:05,400
um you know definitively

1225
00:55:10,730 --> 00:55:08,280
um identify with what they say you know

1226
00:55:13,549 --> 00:55:10,740
um so you know it's what it has that

1227
00:55:14,329 --> 00:55:13,559
subterranean

1228
00:55:17,870 --> 00:55:14,339
um

1229
00:55:19,970 --> 00:55:17,880
Look to You know almost like uh

1230
00:55:21,910 --> 00:55:19,980
almost like a crawler but I mean this

1231
00:55:25,609 --> 00:55:21,920
thing had fur I mean it was a physical

1232
00:55:28,910 --> 00:55:25,619
being I mean it wasn't like you know

1233
00:55:32,030 --> 00:55:28,920
it's I don't know man it's it's totally

1234
00:55:34,309 --> 00:55:32,040
I mean it's corporeal so I mean you know

1235
00:55:37,130 --> 00:55:34,319
you heard it you saw it hitting rocks

1236
00:55:39,349 --> 00:55:37,140
and moving rocks and actually grabbing a

1237
00:55:42,230 --> 00:55:39,359
bird or whatever and yeah I was doing

1238
00:55:44,690 --> 00:55:42,240
things with corporeal a being would do

1239
00:55:47,990 --> 00:55:44,700
so you weren't seeing some type of met

1240
00:55:50,690 --> 00:55:48,000
some type of uh spear manifestation or

1241
00:55:52,849 --> 00:55:50,700
some type yeah definitely even like a

1242
00:55:56,150 --> 00:55:52,859
tulpa or anything like that I mean you

1243
00:55:57,829 --> 00:55:56,160
know yeah I I you know this whole thing

1244
00:56:00,410 --> 00:55:57,839
you know from the very beginning when I

1245
00:56:02,930 --> 00:56:00,420
you told me about this and then I

1246
00:56:06,650 --> 00:56:02,940
started talking to um

1247
00:56:09,829 --> 00:56:06,660
to Eric Eric mantel about it I mean it's

1248
00:56:13,069 --> 00:56:09,839
just like it's crazy I mean it is it is

1249
00:56:15,309 --> 00:56:13,079
I mean imagine the person seeing it and

1250
00:56:18,770 --> 00:56:15,319
you're like

1251
00:56:20,930 --> 00:56:18,780
okay throw everything you thought you

1252
00:56:23,210 --> 00:56:20,940
knew about the Wilderness and

1253
00:56:25,370 --> 00:56:23,220
did it did you actually did you hear it

1254
00:56:28,609 --> 00:56:25,380
make any sounds growls or anything like

1255
00:56:29,210 --> 00:56:28,619
that it it kind of grunny

1256
00:56:34,549 --> 00:56:29,220
um

1257
00:56:36,170 --> 00:56:34,559
I was like you know I was like I

1258
00:56:39,170 --> 00:56:36,180
probably grunt too if I fell there for

1259
00:56:42,109 --> 00:56:39,180
him right yeah I mean you know if it had

1260
00:56:44,690 --> 00:56:42,119
not moved would you have gone closer

1261
00:56:46,430 --> 00:56:44,700
like when it fell

1262
00:56:49,790 --> 00:56:46,440
um

1263
00:56:51,049 --> 00:56:49,800
probably yeah I probably would have gone

1264
00:56:53,089 --> 00:56:51,059
back

1265
00:56:56,990 --> 00:56:53,099
um that was my daughter no for sure yeah

1266
00:57:00,049 --> 00:56:57,000
yeah as violent as this thing was I mean

1267
00:57:03,470 --> 00:57:00,059
yeah James James asked about there was

1268
00:57:06,650 --> 00:57:03,480
no tail no there was no tail that that I

1269
00:57:08,390 --> 00:57:06,660
can confirm because when it fell it

1270
00:57:11,210 --> 00:57:08,400
landed

1271
00:57:14,390 --> 00:57:11,220
um on a 45 so you know if I'm here it

1272
00:57:17,630 --> 00:57:14,400
would land like this and I could see you

1273
00:57:19,010 --> 00:57:17,640
know calmed in uh if they asked what I

1274
00:57:21,530 --> 00:57:19,020
want to call it and you know there was

1275
00:57:23,210 --> 00:57:21,540
no tail at all

1276
00:57:24,890 --> 00:57:23,220
one other thing you might want to check

1277
00:57:26,690 --> 00:57:24,900
out when you're checking these like USGS

1278
00:57:30,910 --> 00:57:26,700
maps and stuff see if you can find a

1279
00:57:39,589 --> 00:57:33,770
is there a magnetic anomaly there yes

1280
00:57:42,010 --> 00:57:39,599
and it's it's uh in the 400 range Nano

1281
00:57:44,569 --> 00:57:42,020
Teslas

1282
00:57:47,510 --> 00:57:44,579
somebody sent me a magnetic anomaly map

1283
00:57:49,670 --> 00:57:47,520
of York County and literally

1284
00:57:52,670 --> 00:57:49,680
every one of these places I go where we

1285
00:57:55,490 --> 00:57:52,680
where people have had repeat incidents

1286
00:57:58,130 --> 00:57:55,500
has magnetic anomalies there yeah yeah

1287
00:58:00,829 --> 00:57:58,140
and you know again that's part of the

1288
00:58:03,170 --> 00:58:00,839
you know all these settings as far as

1289
00:58:07,069 --> 00:58:03,180
now I'm just taking the dog man sayings

1290
00:58:11,750 --> 00:58:07,079
but every single place of where these

1291
00:58:13,910 --> 00:58:11,760
things to where there is a definitive

1292
00:58:16,250 --> 00:58:13,920
um location given

1293
00:58:20,030 --> 00:58:16,260
all these same patterns keep coming up

1294
00:58:22,970 --> 00:58:20,040
so I in my opinion I think there is a

1295
00:58:25,609 --> 00:58:22,980
science there to say Hey you know I

1296
00:58:27,829 --> 00:58:25,619
think we should be investigating this as

1297
00:58:31,010 --> 00:58:27,839
well so you know I'm still my own

1298
00:58:33,049 --> 00:58:31,020
research for that you know uh the

1299
00:58:37,069 --> 00:58:33,059
bizarre thing is is there's always two

1300
00:58:40,430 --> 00:58:37,079
bodies of work as far as a reservoir

1301
00:58:43,130 --> 00:58:40,440
a smaller Pond and there's a river

1302
00:58:45,890 --> 00:58:43,140
within three miles of you know and

1303
00:58:47,690 --> 00:58:45,900
there's always a park yeah that's one of

1304
00:58:49,970 --> 00:58:47,700
the things I asked like when I'm called

1305
00:58:52,130 --> 00:58:49,980
out on like Bigfoot witnesses to meet

1306
00:58:53,210 --> 00:58:52,140
them and and so forth and they give me

1307
00:58:54,589 --> 00:58:53,220
their encounters one of the things I

1308
00:58:57,049 --> 00:58:54,599
always ask is where's the nearest Creek

1309
00:58:58,430 --> 00:58:57,059
and I'm trying to like we're in

1310
00:59:00,289 --> 00:58:58,440
Pennsylvania right there's Creeks

1311
00:59:02,450 --> 00:59:00,299
everywhere so I don't know if that's

1312
00:59:04,309 --> 00:59:02,460
really connected but there's always a

1313
00:59:05,809 --> 00:59:04,319
creek nearby that's you know there's all

1314
00:59:06,950 --> 00:59:05,819
like I haven't found one yet where they

1315
00:59:08,750 --> 00:59:06,960
haven't said oh no there's no Creek

1316
00:59:11,030 --> 00:59:08,760
around here but is that because they're

1317
00:59:13,930 --> 00:59:11,040
Pennsylvania or is that because they're

1318
00:59:17,690 --> 00:59:13,940
around Creeks or both you know yeah

1319
00:59:19,609 --> 00:59:17,700
and we we do have a we do have a a kind

1320
00:59:21,289 --> 00:59:19,619
of um

1321
00:59:25,190 --> 00:59:21,299
you know we have a lot of limestone

1322
00:59:27,589 --> 00:59:25,200
creeks a lot of limestone streams a lot

1323
00:59:31,549 --> 00:59:27,599
of spring fed yeah especially in south

1324
00:59:33,530 --> 00:59:31,559
central Pennsylvania yes and uh

1325
00:59:35,690 --> 00:59:33,540
I don't know I mean maybe there is

1326
00:59:37,870 --> 00:59:35,700
something to that I don't know

1327
00:59:42,710 --> 00:59:40,789
it is I mean you know these karst

1328
00:59:45,049 --> 00:59:42,720
regions

1329
00:59:47,870 --> 00:59:45,059
um just keep popping up at every one of

1330
00:59:49,510 --> 00:59:47,880
these locations and I I've analyzed

1331
00:59:52,569 --> 00:59:49,520
probably

1332
00:59:56,510 --> 00:59:52,579
120 in just in PA

1333
00:59:58,190 --> 00:59:56,520
now since like 1960s to where I could

1334
01:00:01,130 --> 00:59:58,200
get a definitive I mean I've done

1335
01:00:03,650 --> 01:00:01,140
thousands of hours of research on this I

1336
01:00:06,049 --> 01:00:03,660
mean you know I I I will get answers

1337
01:00:08,569 --> 01:00:06,059
some way somewhere James James West

1338
01:00:11,150 --> 01:00:08,579
asked what's the game situation in the

1339
01:00:12,589 --> 01:00:11,160
area well it's like anywhere else in

1340
01:00:14,530 --> 01:00:12,599
South Central even though that's a

1341
01:00:17,569 --> 01:00:14,540
little further west that's near Redding

1342
01:00:19,870 --> 01:00:17,579
uh I mean there there are some small

1343
01:00:23,750 --> 01:00:19,880
bear populations in and around the area

1344
01:00:25,730 --> 01:00:23,760
yes of course there's a lot of deer uh

1345
01:00:29,089 --> 01:00:25,740
but you know what we've been getting

1346
01:00:30,609 --> 01:00:29,099
more and more of these candid phenomena

1347
01:00:33,890 --> 01:00:30,619
sightings

1348
01:00:36,010 --> 01:00:33,900
in the eastern part of the state in more

1349
01:00:38,390 --> 01:00:36,020
recent years especially on the Poconos

1350
01:00:41,630 --> 01:00:38,400
I've done a lot of sightings up the

1351
01:00:43,430 --> 01:00:41,640
Poconos uh I know Eric's working on one

1352
01:00:46,849 --> 01:00:43,440
down in I guess Chester County or

1353
01:00:49,370 --> 01:00:46,859
Montgomery County uh now this is Berks

1354
01:00:51,650 --> 01:00:49,380
County uh Bucks County we've had three

1355
01:00:54,049 --> 01:00:51,660
or four sightings in and around

1356
01:00:56,809 --> 01:00:54,059
uh

1357
01:01:02,270 --> 01:00:56,819
Doylestown that area around there oh

1358
01:01:05,870 --> 01:01:04,370
you know this you know when Butch and I

1359
01:01:07,250 --> 01:01:05,880
started looking into this we were

1360
01:01:09,170 --> 01:01:07,260
getting most of the sightings in the

1361
01:01:11,930 --> 01:01:09,180
central part of the state well

1362
01:01:14,329 --> 01:01:11,940
I I'd say from the Allegheny state

1363
01:01:16,910 --> 01:01:14,339
forest South East into like maybe

1364
01:01:19,130 --> 01:01:16,920
Lancaster County but just goes a little

1365
01:01:20,690 --> 01:01:19,140
bit further east in that and now we're

1366
01:01:22,190 --> 01:01:20,700
getting all these sites especially this

1367
01:01:23,930 --> 01:01:22,200
year we're getting all these sightings

1368
01:01:29,390 --> 01:01:23,940
around on the eastern part of the state

1369
01:01:32,650 --> 01:01:29,400
yeah it's weird I mean I'm I'm in the

1370
01:01:37,750 --> 01:01:32,660
process of getting some drones and some

1371
01:01:41,329 --> 01:01:37,760
high-end uh trail cams and uh I'll be

1372
01:01:43,789 --> 01:01:41,339
once I find out good spots to put this

1373
01:01:46,430 --> 01:01:43,799
stuff in as far as you know terrain that

1374
01:01:49,430 --> 01:01:46,440
I'm looking for because this thing is

1375
01:01:51,890 --> 01:01:49,440
not living in the woods uh you know

1376
01:01:55,130 --> 01:01:51,900
it could be migrating but I think

1377
01:01:59,390 --> 01:01:55,140
there's a den or you know because it's

1378
01:02:01,910 --> 01:01:59,400
too big it's way too big it has to be in

1379
01:02:07,309 --> 01:02:01,920
like a cavern a cave

1380
01:02:07,910 --> 01:02:07,319
uh you know a deep ravine something

1381
01:02:09,230 --> 01:02:07,920
um

1382
01:02:11,690 --> 01:02:09,240
and that's

1383
01:02:13,789 --> 01:02:11,700
I keep going back to that because I mean

1384
01:02:15,890 --> 01:02:13,799
this thing

1385
01:02:17,650 --> 01:02:15,900
I mean I could be totally wrong I mean I

1386
01:02:21,530 --> 01:02:17,660
I've been reading you know

1387
01:02:23,390 --> 01:02:21,540
zoology stuff I mean I'm just I got like

1388
01:02:26,510 --> 01:02:23,400
10 different subjects that I'm reading

1389
01:02:29,150 --> 01:02:26,520
try and build and build a

1390
01:02:31,849 --> 01:02:29,160
possible and put these pieces together

1391
01:02:35,270 --> 01:02:31,859
you know so

1392
01:02:37,370 --> 01:02:35,280
I don't know I mean so you know just

1393
01:02:38,150 --> 01:02:37,380
just a little bit of advice

1394
01:02:41,450 --> 01:02:38,160
um

1395
01:02:44,510 --> 01:02:41,460
I went through a period where I thought

1396
01:02:46,730 --> 01:02:44,520
I was gonna solve it you know the solve

1397
01:02:48,890 --> 01:02:46,740
the Bigfoot thing and at some point I I

1398
01:02:53,809 --> 01:02:48,900
realized I'm not I'm not going to solve

1399
01:02:55,609 --> 01:02:53,819
this I had to sit down and and say you

1400
01:02:56,930 --> 01:02:55,619
know what dude do you still you know I

1401
01:02:59,569 --> 01:02:56,940
was kind of depressed honestly about

1402
01:03:01,250 --> 01:02:59,579
real impressed about it and I'd sit down

1403
01:03:02,930 --> 01:03:01,260
and like talk to myself and just say hey

1404
01:03:04,910 --> 01:03:02,940
are you still interested in it do you

1405
01:03:07,430 --> 01:03:04,920
still like it are you willing to accept

1406
01:03:09,049 --> 01:03:07,440
that you you're you might not solve this

1407
01:03:10,730 --> 01:03:09,059
so

1408
01:03:12,230 --> 01:03:10,740
I mean I think it's great to look for

1409
01:03:13,549 --> 01:03:12,240
answers I'm not telling you not to do

1410
01:03:16,730 --> 01:03:13,559
that look for all the answers you can

1411
01:03:20,930 --> 01:03:16,740
find but be prepared like you might not

1412
01:03:23,329 --> 01:03:20,940
hey I agree you know and uh you know I'm

1413
01:03:29,210 --> 01:03:23,339
keeping an open mind you know I

1414
01:03:34,370 --> 01:03:32,030
if I can say anything with certainty

1415
01:03:35,750 --> 01:03:34,380
about crypto hunting if you're out there

1416
01:03:38,329 --> 01:03:35,760
looking for it you're not going to find

1417
01:03:42,289 --> 01:03:38,339
it right it'll find you before you find

1418
01:03:45,230 --> 01:03:42,299
it oh yeah exactly and so you know I'm

1419
01:03:46,910 --> 01:03:45,240
just I you know I will say your journey

1420
01:03:48,589 --> 01:03:46,920
looking for it you're gonna it's gonna

1421
01:03:51,530 --> 01:03:48,599
be an interesting Journey for that you

1422
01:03:53,450 --> 01:03:51,540
can depend on you know it'll be it'll be

1423
01:03:55,730 --> 01:03:53,460
very interesting so you it's it's

1424
01:03:57,650 --> 01:03:55,740
rewarding even if you don't come up with

1425
01:04:00,650 --> 01:03:57,660
you know finding the exact answers you

1426
01:04:03,109 --> 01:04:00,660
set out for yeah yeah I mean you know

1427
01:04:05,569 --> 01:04:03,119
I'm I'm just trying to

1428
01:04:07,930 --> 01:04:05,579
I'm just trying to educate myself on

1429
01:04:10,130 --> 01:04:07,940
okay yeah

1430
01:04:11,930 --> 01:04:10,140
wherever it leaves at least and I'm

1431
01:04:14,329 --> 01:04:11,940
keeping an open mind because you know

1432
01:04:16,910 --> 01:04:14,339
the way to do it all the time you know

1433
01:04:18,650 --> 01:04:16,920
uh people people have these sightings

1434
01:04:21,250 --> 01:04:18,660
and they don't come fooled you know and

1435
01:04:24,049 --> 01:04:21,260
they struggle with it

1436
01:04:27,049 --> 01:04:24,059
so Tim let me ask you this

1437
01:04:28,510 --> 01:04:27,059
let's let's say we go forward on this as

1438
01:04:32,510 --> 01:04:28,520
a team

1439
01:04:37,490 --> 01:04:34,789
huh

1440
01:04:43,490 --> 01:04:41,270
I think can I can we get around these

1441
01:04:48,349 --> 01:04:43,500
quarries at night

1442
01:04:51,289 --> 01:04:48,359
uh well The Preserve closes at night

1443
01:04:54,950 --> 01:04:51,299
I'm actually oh the quarries in The

1444
01:04:59,270 --> 01:04:54,960
Preserve well yeah it's a performance

1445
01:05:03,049 --> 01:04:59,280
yeah the Quarry is it borders it

1446
01:05:04,609 --> 01:05:03,059
um and supposedly without permission

1447
01:05:06,770 --> 01:05:04,619
you're not allowed in there after dark

1448
01:05:08,510 --> 01:05:06,780
but you know I guess you could do it who

1449
01:05:11,930 --> 01:05:08,520
runs that is it the state county or what

1450
01:05:14,809 --> 01:05:11,940
I think it's the Birdsboro

1451
01:05:17,809 --> 01:05:14,819
um municipality that runs the bizarre

1452
01:05:20,690 --> 01:05:17,819
part of it and then the uh state park is

1453
01:05:22,370 --> 01:05:20,700
you know state parks us and yeah so this

1454
01:05:24,410 --> 01:05:22,380
is where we need Butch because Butch

1455
01:05:26,390 --> 01:05:24,420
could sweet talk somebody getting in

1456
01:05:28,130 --> 01:05:26,400
there Chad and I have had real good luck

1457
01:05:30,829 --> 01:05:28,140
with state parks if you just if you're

1458
01:05:33,530 --> 01:05:30,839
just honest and you tell them hey we

1459
01:05:35,569 --> 01:05:33,540
want to be do a night hike this is we're

1460
01:05:37,130 --> 01:05:35,579
gonna have two cars these are the mix of

1461
01:05:39,349 --> 01:05:37,140
our cars this is where we're going to

1462
01:05:41,870 --> 01:05:39,359
park yeah we're gonna be in there

1463
01:05:43,789 --> 01:05:41,880
sometimes not always sometimes they're

1464
01:05:46,069 --> 01:05:43,799
pretty reasonable about it they're like

1465
01:05:48,289 --> 01:05:46,079
okay because for the most part state

1466
01:05:49,970 --> 01:05:48,299
parks they're happy for you to use they

1467
01:05:52,849 --> 01:05:49,980
want you to use the resources you know

1468
01:05:54,950 --> 01:05:52,859
they want you to be there so um we've

1469
01:05:56,569 --> 01:05:54,960
we've hiked state parks at night we just

1470
01:05:57,829 --> 01:05:56,579
would contact the Rangers we tell them

1471
01:06:00,410 --> 01:05:57,839
where we're going to be and there's and

1472
01:06:02,150 --> 01:06:00,420
they say fine you know have they allowed

1473
01:06:04,309 --> 01:06:02,160
you to go into Misha before

1474
01:06:07,670 --> 01:06:04,319
you know you can go in anytime you want

1475
01:06:09,470 --> 01:06:07,680
oh really yeah day night anytime you can

1476
01:06:13,010 --> 01:06:09,480
be there anytime you want

1477
01:06:14,870 --> 01:06:13,020
um but but I realize it but like codor

1478
01:06:16,609 --> 01:06:14,880
State Park we get permission

1479
01:06:17,990 --> 01:06:16,619
from the from the brains as we tell them

1480
01:06:19,549 --> 01:06:18,000
we're going to be there they you know

1481
01:06:22,549 --> 01:06:19,559
and they said that's fine you know but

1482
01:06:24,049 --> 01:06:22,559
we we always let them know because uh we

1483
01:06:25,609 --> 01:06:24,059
don't want to you know adversarial

1484
01:06:27,770 --> 01:06:25,619
relationship with them so that's a

1485
01:06:32,390 --> 01:06:27,780
possibility

1486
01:06:35,029 --> 01:06:32,400
um just to ask whoever else you know

1487
01:06:36,470 --> 01:06:35,039
just and you know we usually just say

1488
01:06:37,490 --> 01:06:36,480
we're going we want to do a night hike

1489
01:06:39,549 --> 01:06:37,500
they don't have to know what we're

1490
01:06:42,829 --> 01:06:39,559
hiking for you know absolutely yeah yeah

1491
01:06:46,309 --> 01:06:42,839
no I I understand that right interesting

1492
01:06:47,809 --> 01:06:46,319
I mean there's a I was on the uh State

1493
01:06:51,170 --> 01:06:47,819
Park

1494
01:06:53,809 --> 01:06:51,180
um website and I was also on the dcnr in

1495
01:06:55,789 --> 01:06:53,819
the dcnr if you have research that you

1496
01:06:58,789 --> 01:06:55,799
want to do on something uh you know

1497
01:07:00,170 --> 01:06:58,799
they're very open to volunteers you do

1498
01:07:02,390 --> 01:07:00,180
that so

1499
01:07:04,730 --> 01:07:02,400
um I was thinking about reaching out to

1500
01:07:06,770 --> 01:07:04,740
them and you know and then you know

1501
01:07:09,289 --> 01:07:06,780
talking with local law enforcement is

1502
01:07:11,029 --> 01:07:09,299
you know as well and say hey look you

1503
01:07:13,730 --> 01:07:11,039
know this is what we want to do and see

1504
01:07:15,289 --> 01:07:13,740
if we you know you know we we have had

1505
01:07:23,089 --> 01:07:15,299
two

1506
01:07:25,910 --> 01:07:23,099
sightings in French Creek really yeah

1507
01:07:29,650 --> 01:07:25,920
wow because Butch was looking into one

1508
01:07:31,789 --> 01:07:29,660
of them so yes I would like to

1509
01:07:33,589 --> 01:07:31,799
see if we get in there at night if we

1510
01:07:35,870 --> 01:07:33,599
get any anomalous lights

1511
01:07:37,670 --> 01:07:35,880
um around those quarries I'd be

1512
01:07:39,950 --> 01:07:37,680
surprised if we don't honestly yeah I

1513
01:07:42,430 --> 01:07:39,960
would be too especially digging down

1514
01:07:45,770 --> 01:07:42,440
there in the Limestone absolutely yeah

1515
01:07:47,569 --> 01:07:45,780
and now with the I you know who can say

1516
01:07:49,970 --> 01:07:47,579
if it's related but

1517
01:07:51,410 --> 01:07:49,980
uh you know the anomalous lights and

1518
01:07:54,710 --> 01:07:51,420
these things they they travel together

1519
01:07:56,630 --> 01:07:54,720
you know yeah so that that be one thing

1520
01:07:57,770 --> 01:07:56,640
I'd definitely like to do we could

1521
01:07:59,510 --> 01:07:57,780
certainly get in there during the day

1522
01:08:02,569 --> 01:07:59,520
and look around and you know just look

1523
01:08:04,190 --> 01:08:02,579
for everything we can can see but uh I'm

1524
01:08:05,690 --> 01:08:04,200
I'm very curious about the anomalous

1525
01:08:07,010 --> 01:08:05,700
lights

1526
01:08:08,930 --> 01:08:07,020
um

1527
01:08:11,510 --> 01:08:08,940
Matt you're doing a heck of a job with

1528
01:08:15,109 --> 01:08:11,520
with all the this geological research I

1529
01:08:17,570 --> 01:08:15,119
mean trust me I I'm I you know an

1530
01:08:19,490 --> 01:08:17,580
interesting thing I even went online as

1531
01:08:21,590 --> 01:08:19,500
far as

1532
01:08:23,510 --> 01:08:21,600
um you know like radioactive because I

1533
01:08:26,570 --> 01:08:23,520
mean this thing was like sickly looking

1534
01:08:28,070 --> 01:08:26,580
I mean it wasn't it didn't seem healthy

1535
01:08:30,530 --> 01:08:28,080
to me well you said you checked the

1536
01:08:32,990 --> 01:08:30,540
radon label uh levels of that area too

1537
01:08:34,669 --> 01:08:33,000
didn't you oh yeah you know I just

1538
01:08:37,550 --> 01:08:34,679
started going through I mean you know

1539
01:08:38,930 --> 01:08:37,560
just Wildfire just by Don lockham I

1540
01:08:42,110 --> 01:08:38,940
guess it was about a month ago I was

1541
01:08:45,470 --> 01:08:42,120
watching about High Hybrid mutant

1542
01:08:47,450 --> 01:08:45,480
species over in chernoby you know you

1543
01:08:49,789 --> 01:08:47,460
know all these different things and it

1544
01:08:52,010 --> 01:08:49,799
was like boom I'm like you know what

1545
01:08:55,729 --> 01:08:52,020
this thing could be you know

1546
01:08:58,550 --> 01:08:55,739
Subterranean uh which you know I

1547
01:08:59,630 --> 01:08:58,560
I'm rolling it out 50 50 chance because

1548
01:09:02,809 --> 01:08:59,640
you know

1549
01:09:05,150 --> 01:09:02,819
um I'm thinking what the way this thing

1550
01:09:07,309 --> 01:09:05,160
looked I mean it did not look healthy it

1551
01:09:09,530 --> 01:09:07,319
did not look like it saw sunlight or it

1552
01:09:11,630 --> 01:09:09,540
was nocturnal you know but it was really

1553
01:09:13,610 --> 01:09:11,640
skinny so I thought hey you know what

1554
01:09:17,030 --> 01:09:13,620
let me go in here and check the radon

1555
01:09:19,490 --> 01:09:17,040
levels for uh Jester and uh this area

1556
01:09:23,749 --> 01:09:19,500
ensures could be

1557
01:09:25,729 --> 01:09:23,759
uh 73 percent radon levels in certain

1558
01:09:28,450 --> 01:09:25,739
Wells the highest in Pennsylvania

1559
01:09:32,150 --> 01:09:28,460
actually the country

1560
01:09:35,030 --> 01:09:32,160
and it's right in the same Bridge

1561
01:09:37,189 --> 01:09:35,040
so who did you know they're at home you

1562
01:09:38,809 --> 01:09:37,199
know I'm just I'm just looking at in the

1563
01:09:41,930 --> 01:09:38,819
USGS

1564
01:09:45,890 --> 01:09:41,940
the website it's absolutely amazing as

1565
01:09:48,229 --> 01:09:45,900
well yeah I got I got mine I got the PA

1566
01:09:51,169 --> 01:09:48,239
mind maps uh interactive maps right off

1567
01:09:53,630 --> 01:09:51,179
the internet I mean there's 250 minds

1568
01:09:56,090 --> 01:09:53,640
and that's just coal mines then there's

1569
01:09:58,310 --> 01:09:56,100
there's four mines there's you know

1570
01:10:00,830 --> 01:09:58,320
silver mountains oh yeah that's

1571
01:10:02,750 --> 01:10:00,840
something that we had looked at from the

1572
01:10:04,970 --> 01:10:02,760
very beginning with the coal mines in

1573
01:10:06,890 --> 01:10:04,980
particular these the surface mines and

1574
01:10:09,530 --> 01:10:06,900
and then you know the caves and stuff

1575
01:10:12,169 --> 01:10:09,540
especially down in Cambria County and

1576
01:10:15,650 --> 01:10:12,179
stuff where they had had done some uh

1577
01:10:17,810 --> 01:10:15,660
not real heavy duty coal mining but

1578
01:10:21,950 --> 01:10:17,820
there are a lot of caves in this state

1579
01:10:23,390 --> 01:10:21,960
and um I think I think Berks County's

1580
01:10:25,610 --> 01:10:23,400
got a lot of them too to be honest with

1581
01:10:27,229 --> 01:10:25,620
you I mean you know Birch county is a

1582
01:10:29,450 --> 01:10:27,239
strange County especially for that for

1583
01:10:31,490 --> 01:10:29,460
that part of the state because they do

1584
01:10:34,850 --> 01:10:31,500
have they do have mountains in that area

1585
01:10:37,070 --> 01:10:34,860
in in the state in that county uh and

1586
01:10:38,510 --> 01:10:37,080
you wouldn't think it but it does they

1587
01:10:40,610 --> 01:10:38,520
do

1588
01:10:43,490 --> 01:10:40,620
um yeah

1589
01:10:45,890 --> 01:10:43,500
yeah I mean you know that's the that's

1590
01:10:46,669 --> 01:10:45,900
the nice thing about flying I mean you

1591
01:10:50,689 --> 01:10:46,679
know

1592
01:10:53,990 --> 01:10:50,699
see that stuff from the air all the time

1593
01:10:56,090 --> 01:10:54,000
so you know that's my next my next plan

1594
01:10:57,770 --> 01:10:56,100
of attack is over there in a while all

1595
01:10:59,689 --> 01:10:57,780
the leaves are off

1596
01:11:02,570 --> 01:10:59,699
I'm gonna be going on through the works

1597
01:11:06,530 --> 01:11:02,580
finding you know these deepest Ravine

1598
01:11:09,470 --> 01:11:06,540
areas and go down The Ridges you know in

1599
01:11:12,169 --> 01:11:09,480
Google Earth and then go back with the

1600
01:11:16,669 --> 01:11:12,179
actions you know fly over those areas

1601
01:11:19,250 --> 01:11:16,679
and then so weird yeah you know I'm the

1602
01:11:21,110 --> 01:11:19,260
first thing I'm thinking of is that 70s

1603
01:11:22,910 --> 01:11:21,120
movie trog yeah remember that you

1604
01:11:25,669 --> 01:11:22,920
remember seeing that movie I don't think

1605
01:11:26,689 --> 01:11:25,679
I did oh my God you got to see that

1606
01:11:31,010 --> 01:11:26,699
thing

1607
01:11:33,290 --> 01:11:31,020
yeah if trog t-r-o-g that well I want a

1608
01:11:34,669 --> 01:11:33,300
wildest moves ever slow and I was when I

1609
01:11:37,130 --> 01:11:34,679
was a kid that's the first thing that

1610
01:11:39,290 --> 01:11:37,140
hit my mind when I I thought about this

1611
01:11:40,450 --> 01:11:39,300
yeah

1612
01:11:44,450 --> 01:11:40,460
um

1613
01:11:46,070 --> 01:11:44,460
you know I don't know this this is

1614
01:11:48,850 --> 01:11:46,080
it's crazy it's definitely worth

1615
01:11:52,130 --> 01:11:48,860
investigating I mean I you know we

1616
01:11:53,630 --> 01:11:52,140
uh yeah I mean this is just just so

1617
01:11:56,030 --> 01:11:53,640
weird you didn't you never came up with

1618
01:11:57,169 --> 01:11:56,040
any tracks or anything like that did you

1619
01:11:59,870 --> 01:11:57,179
no no

1620
01:12:01,930 --> 01:11:59,880
um we were actually up we were up on top

1621
01:12:05,689 --> 01:12:01,940
of the hill we were probably

1622
01:12:08,750 --> 01:12:05,699
75 yards away right

1623
01:12:12,410 --> 01:12:08,760
um it was just too thick to get down in

1624
01:12:16,430 --> 01:12:12,420
there but uh yeah you know once the

1625
01:12:18,770 --> 01:12:16,440
leaves are off the trees and and uh we

1626
01:12:20,110 --> 01:12:18,780
can get get back in there

1627
01:12:23,209 --> 01:12:20,120
um

1628
01:12:24,890 --> 01:12:23,219
yeah I I don't I don't think yeah I

1629
01:12:27,950 --> 01:12:24,900
think it would probably be best when

1630
01:12:31,550 --> 01:12:27,960
it's kind of stripped of the leaves

1631
01:12:32,990 --> 01:12:31,560
oh yeah absolutely I agree yeah I like I

1632
01:12:34,370 --> 01:12:33,000
like to see when I'm out there I don't

1633
01:12:36,850 --> 01:12:34,380
like things to be like get right up on

1634
01:12:39,470 --> 01:12:36,860
me yeah I don't want anything

1635
01:12:42,290 --> 01:12:39,480
camouflage are covering itself that big

1636
01:12:44,030 --> 01:12:42,300
or like that that's good yeah it's bad

1637
01:12:47,090 --> 01:12:44,040
enough you have to worry about bears and

1638
01:12:50,510 --> 01:12:47,100
cats but uh yeah one of these you know

1639
01:12:54,610 --> 01:12:50,520
believe me I would rather come across 3

1640
01:12:59,149 --> 01:12:57,410
I know when you called me it was it was

1641
01:13:01,430 --> 01:12:59,159
pretty fresh after you saw it and you

1642
01:13:04,330 --> 01:13:01,440
were pretty upset when you called me oh

1643
01:13:07,030 --> 01:13:04,340
I was I'll just wake up everything

1644
01:13:09,649 --> 01:13:07,040
[Laughter]

1645
01:13:11,750 --> 01:13:09,659
you don't understand man I mean we've

1646
01:13:14,709 --> 01:13:11,760
got the gym Crawford was in there that's

1647
01:13:14,719 --> 01:13:20,930
there you go uh yeah

1648
01:13:24,890 --> 01:13:23,030
and like I said to you at the time if

1649
01:13:27,590 --> 01:13:24,900
you know I have kids you put your kids

1650
01:13:30,229 --> 01:13:27,600
in the equation and that's absolutely so

1651
01:13:32,990 --> 01:13:30,239
much worse because it's like oh yeah I

1652
01:13:35,990 --> 01:13:33,000
mean you know I probably

1653
01:13:38,149 --> 01:13:36,000
a lot of people ask me like hey you

1654
01:13:40,010 --> 01:13:38,159
there's a there's a place we go to see

1655
01:13:41,630 --> 01:13:40,020
anomalous lights it gets pretty creepy

1656
01:13:43,189 --> 01:13:41,640
and a lot of people are like hey you

1657
01:13:44,709 --> 01:13:43,199
take your wife and kids there I'm like

1658
01:13:47,630 --> 01:13:44,719
yeah

1659
01:13:48,890 --> 01:13:47,640
because it's like it gets too weird and

1660
01:13:50,810 --> 01:13:48,900
then I'm like I wouldn't be able to

1661
01:13:53,870 --> 01:13:50,820
focus on anything but like are you guys

1662
01:13:55,610 --> 01:13:53,880
okay you know like like absolutely with

1663
01:13:59,090 --> 01:13:55,620
them in the car you know because it just

1664
01:14:00,830 --> 01:13:59,100
it gets too too weird have you ever have

1665
01:14:03,649 --> 01:14:00,840
you ever heard of Brown Mountain down in

1666
01:14:06,770 --> 01:14:03,659
North Carolina absolutely yeah

1667
01:14:09,770 --> 01:14:06,780
um I actually knew a guy who did uh

1668
01:14:13,970 --> 01:14:09,780
studying down there with the military on

1669
01:14:15,890 --> 01:14:13,980
what those lights were and uh they they

1670
01:14:17,110 --> 01:14:15,900
think it has to do with Magnetic

1671
01:14:21,290 --> 01:14:17,120
friction

1672
01:14:24,350 --> 01:14:21,300
with the weather down there as far as

1673
01:14:27,229 --> 01:14:24,360
like certain times pretty crazy stuff

1674
01:14:28,850 --> 01:14:27,239
but yeah yeah well there have been so

1675
01:14:30,649 --> 01:14:28,860
many stories of people going on there

1676
01:14:33,470 --> 01:14:30,659
following the lights around getting lost

1677
01:14:36,229 --> 01:14:33,480
I mean you know it's it's a crazy crazy

1678
01:14:38,149 --> 01:14:36,239
place oh yeah I mean the Cherokee used

1679
01:14:39,890 --> 01:14:38,159
to talk about it all the time I mean you

1680
01:14:41,450 --> 01:14:39,900
know they you know that whole area was

1681
01:14:43,010 --> 01:14:41,460
just

1682
01:14:43,550 --> 01:14:43,020
yeah

1683
01:14:46,850 --> 01:14:43,560
um

1684
01:14:48,470 --> 01:14:46,860
well guys I tell you what I I Matt I

1685
01:14:51,590 --> 01:14:48,480
appreciate you coming forward and coming

1686
01:14:53,870 --> 01:14:51,600
on the show and talking about this and

1687
01:14:56,270 --> 01:14:53,880
and Tim I appreciate you coming on to

1688
01:14:58,010 --> 01:14:56,280
help me out and and uh asking questions

1689
01:15:00,410 --> 01:14:58,020
with Matt we're gonna have to look into

1690
01:15:02,810 --> 01:15:00,420
this a little bit further uh because

1691
01:15:05,510 --> 01:15:02,820
there's there's something just as not

1692
01:15:10,610 --> 01:15:05,520
right about this I mean this is this is

1693
01:15:14,750 --> 01:15:12,110
it's not

1694
01:15:16,729 --> 01:15:14,760
okay guys well thanks for coming on and

1695
01:15:18,770 --> 01:15:16,739
uh you know keep in touch and we'll be

1696
01:15:20,649 --> 01:15:18,780
talking soon all right sounds great

1697
01:15:24,229 --> 01:15:20,659
thanks for having me

1698
01:15:26,630 --> 01:15:24,239
yeah see ya

1699
01:15:28,370 --> 01:15:26,640
now if you've had a cider and counter

1700
01:15:30,290 --> 01:15:28,380
report uh that you'd like to be

1701
01:15:33,050 --> 01:15:30,300
considered for the personal report show

1702
01:15:35,090 --> 01:15:33,060
or even post on fans of monsters you can

1703
01:15:38,270 --> 01:15:35,100
forward it to my email at law instructor

1704
01:15:42,470 --> 01:15:38,280
famson monsters.com uh I want to again

1705
01:15:44,990 --> 01:15:42,480
thank uh Matt for coming on in for uh

1706
01:15:48,649 --> 01:15:45,000
and for Tim to come on as well this is

1707
01:15:51,110 --> 01:15:48,659
crazy it's a crazy sighting uh so uh

1708
01:15:52,790 --> 01:15:51,120
like I said if we do get any follow-ups

1709
01:15:53,689 --> 01:15:52,800
on any more information we will

1710
01:15:56,209 --> 01:15:53,699
definitely

1711
01:15:58,729 --> 01:15:56,219
post a little team site on the on the on

1712
01:16:00,649 --> 01:15:58,739
the blog or whatever but uh you know

1713
01:16:03,229 --> 01:16:00,659
even if we get more information we might

1714
01:16:04,130 --> 01:16:03,239
even do another show so

1715
01:16:07,130 --> 01:16:04,140
um

1716
01:16:09,290 --> 01:16:07,140
uh and thanks to all of you for coming

1717
01:16:11,390 --> 01:16:09,300
on and watching chatting and asking

1718
01:16:14,990 --> 01:16:11,400
questions that that's a big part of this

1719
01:16:18,110 --> 01:16:15,000
as well uh participation is always

1720
01:16:20,750 --> 01:16:18,120
welcomed and uh your support is all also

1721
01:16:23,750 --> 01:16:20,760
welcome so please like subscribe share

1722
01:16:27,590 --> 01:16:23,760
and you know add your comments uh after

1723
01:16:30,770 --> 01:16:27,600
the show so um this Friday

1724
01:16:32,990 --> 01:16:30,780
there's I'm not going to be around for

1725
01:16:34,910 --> 01:16:33,000
over a week because I'm having surgery

1726
01:16:37,370 --> 01:16:34,920
so um

1727
01:16:39,229 --> 01:16:37,380
uh Vincent Richardson and Bernadette

1728
01:16:41,750 --> 01:16:39,239
McDaniel are going to be doing a

1729
01:16:43,910 --> 01:16:41,760
Halloween show next Friday night

1730
01:16:46,250 --> 01:16:43,920
so when we get all the particulars on

1731
01:16:48,110 --> 01:16:46,260
that I'll post it up and we'll put it

1732
01:16:50,930 --> 01:16:48,120
out there give you plenty of time to see

1733
01:16:54,229 --> 01:16:50,940
it and all so uh that'll be interesting

1734
01:16:55,550 --> 01:16:54,239
and also we're going to be taping our

1735
01:16:59,530 --> 01:16:55,560
recording

1736
01:17:04,430 --> 01:16:59,540
a uh an interview tomorrow with another

1737
01:17:07,310 --> 01:17:04,440
uh upper 189 Cryptid K9 experience or

1738
01:17:09,290 --> 01:17:07,320
this time in West Virginia so when we do

1739
01:17:11,570 --> 01:17:09,300
get that recorded and get that all set

1740
01:17:15,709 --> 01:17:11,580
up we'll go ahead and post it up on the

1741
01:17:18,169 --> 01:17:15,719
on the YouTube site as well so uh yeah

1742
01:17:20,390 --> 01:17:18,179
so until then and then until next Friday

1743
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:20,400
uh stay healthy and have a safe

1744
01:17:38,209 --> 01:17:31,200
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1745
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